On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro < reier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Tomas, @Martin, > > I already knew those links... Thanks anyway. Actually I went a bit further > an implemented the same "application" on different technologies so that > developers could evaluate for themselves the wonders of "downsides" of each > technology... plus detailed explanations of how the code works.... > Unfortunately I cannot share that code as is property of the company I work > for.... That's a pretty solid approach, pity you can't share the code though. I tried to do something similar as open-source: http://code.google.com/p/perfbench/ Maybe you can contribute some analysis or even an implementation or two ;) I would be interested in your feedback, for e.g. which framework to attempt next - do let me know offline. > But the problem is those who will take the final decision will take > into account more "political" reasons that things like "development speed", > "code quality", "code re-usability" and any other adds you throw at them... > > > @Martin, > > Congratulations! Hope I can say the same in a few months. > > Best, > > Ernesto > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Peter Thomas <ptrtho...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro < > > reier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Eelco, > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Eelco Hillenius < > > > eelco.hillen...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I love Wicket and the natural approach it offers to do > > > web-development... > > > > > and I have been pushing hard to use it whenever possible... but on > > the > > > > > "real world" it is not enough to be an excellent product to gain > > > > > wide acceptance... Does last sentence ring a bell? > > > > > > > > I think we've gained pretty wide acceptance actually. Wicket In > Action > > > > has been a best seller for Manning in the months right after it came > > > > out, and Wicket is by many considered as one of the leading web > > > > frameworks for Java. We've also had one of the most active email > lists > > > > for years now. I'm sure Wicket lags behind JSF and Struts > considerably > > > > when it comes to number of users, but hey, why would we care. You > only > > > > need a bunch of serious users to maintain a framework, and Wicket has > > > > many thousands of them :-) > > > > > > > > You don't have to convince me about Wicket excellence! I love Wicket, > > > I've > > > been using it for over two years now, and right now I'm doing all my > > > efforts > > > to get it adopted at the company I'm working for... But being realistic > > > they > > > will probably jump to Struts 2, or Seam-JSF... > > > > > > After re-reading my message I see maybe it was bit "pessimistic".. > maybe > > > out of my present frustration. > > > > > > > may be useful when debating Wicket vs JSF where you work etc: > > http://tinyurl.com/jsf-sucks > > > > - Peter > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Ernesto > > > > > >
