Joyce (and all), 
I, too, am getting older, but it is dubious that it's also 'wiser'.  Can't be 
wise when I'm forgettin everything.

As far as the VFB is concerned, Windows Mail Inbox is still my screen-saver, 
and I always look for new VFB posts each day, as I work at my computers much of 
the time. 

Getting old is no fun (just turned 60), and although I'm not as old as some 
here, I always say it's not the miles, but the off-road abuse.  Being able to 
log on and share anything is still enjoyable, and after having TN and the 
surgery for it, anything that is not abject misery is a good thing.  It's 
helped alot losing 40 lbs. this spring, so I'm a lot more active, but still not 
highly motivated.  Ride my mountain bike more now than ever- Trek Top Fuel 8- 
nice bike.

Because of the poor economy, especially in my field,  I can't afford fishing 
trips- not just for gas- but the incidentals, like miles on the truck counting 
towards oil changes, brakes, tires, break-downs, etc.  Gotta make everything 
last as long as possible.

So I tie a lot and work around the yard, and spend the work days trying to turn 
a buck or two.  Tying is my therapy when I can't fish, and then comes cooking.  
After cajun cooking, I got into Indian/British curry, and started making my own 
Major Grey's style mango chutney for the curry.  Getting pretty good at it, too.

DVD sales were pretty brisk this winter and spring, but have dropped off.  
Chris Helms says that's normal.  I got to chat with him an hour or so the other 
night, as we haven't crossed paths at a show in years.

So, just plugging away, waiting for better times, whatever they might be.  
Hopefully the VFB can revive to something of its former days.  I don't know 
what it will take to restore it, especially if everyone is just 'burned out' by 
life and pressure.  Too bad Buggs, Dr. D, and 'Ronnie aren't here to keep me 
company any more.

Been conversing with Tony a lot off list, and that's been nice.  He's going 
through a lot, so I always think about him.

DonO


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joyce M Westphal 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB "The Phoenix Rises"


  I agree..and sad to say, I, like others, am getting older and not fishing nor 
tying as much.  However, this list is the first thing I read in the morning, 
and usually the last I read at night, so I am still very dependent on learning 
more from those who know so much more about fishing and tying than I do.  
And..I love the recipes for food, the patterns, the fishing reports, and am 
always happy to add prayers for those who are on this list and those they love. 
 Keep it coming. Joyc


  On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Anthony Spezio <bambot...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I think after a while there is not much to say so things slow down quite a 
bit. Don, and Jimmy have really tried to keep things going but we still slowed 
down. 

    I have not mentioned on the list but I am having some medical problems for 
the past three years so I have not been posting much about tying or fishing. I 
would like to see the list come back to it's "Glory Days" like it once was. 
Loosing some of the posters like Murph, Mark and Larry on the list has also 
made a difference.
    I for one will hang in there as long as there is a list.
    Tony




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    From: Niclas Runarsson <niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com>
    To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:33 AM
    Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB "The Phoenix Rises"


    Better re-invented and re-growing than dead and forgotten. A quick 
gathering of the troops into Googlegroups was a good saviour when the Troutnet 
domain suddenly died on us. We did lose quite a few members though. 3,5 years 
later we are 209 of us - a third of the former list. But I don't think it made 
a big change in traffic. "The Big Four" (as described by the About Us list) - 
Don, Tony, JimmyD and Jimi, were quickly back on track and started to generate 
replies from the rest of us. My Outlook post file never noticed a difference. 
LOL

    1: DonO - 1393
    2: Tony - 1221
    3: Bigtroutman - 1150
    4: Deserttrout - 1036
    (with Allan as no 5, with a humble 657) 

    /Nick

     
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    Morning VFB'ers:

    It does my heart good to see so much activity on the list these last few 
days. As one of the VFB managers/monitors, whatever, I have not seen anything 
out of the way, no flamming, plenty of good natured banter, via DonO and Nick 
and a few others  Good stuff all around.
    Even Byard has put in his 2 cents wort several times. Good to see
    he's pleased with the Re-invented VFB.

    JIMMY D
    THE ALPHA TYER

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