I agree Rupert, but honestly I was just responding to Jay's post in the context of trolls, not about John...or his video....just to clairify....
Heath --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know. Discussing trolling in this thread makes it sound like > John's a troll - and I don't think this video is trolling. > > It's an ad hominem polemic, sure - and one that steps way over the > line that I would draw if I were making a video about something like > this. > > And it started a discussion, in which he has been clear and reasoned > in text. > > I hate trolling and flaming, but this is slightly different I think. > > Rupert > http://twittervlog.tv/ > > On 7-Aug-08, at 12:42 PM, Heath wrote: > > The problem Jay, is that's it's NOT just about leaving comments that > are mean or untrue....calling someone and threathing them, making > death threats, ruining your credit....those are things people just > dont "get over it" Those are crimal acts. > > Words DO hurt, it's been proven time and time again, they have power > and not just the power you allow them to have. And I know that you > know that.... > > Heath > http://batmangeek.com > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <jay.dedman@> > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Jeffrey Taylor > <thejeffreytaylor@> > > wrote: > > > Well. > > > Kathy Sierra's stalkertrolls called it "art". > > > That is all. > > > > Really good article on Trolls in the NYTimes magazine last week: > > http://bit.ly/2r7sUf > > Really good read. > > > > I know I've allowed trolls to painfully get to me before. > > Interesting how this one guy explains where he gets his power: > > > > Fortuny proceeded to demonstrate his personal cure for trolling, > the Theory > > of the Green Hair. > > > > "You have green hair," he told me. "Did you know that?" > > > > "No," I said. > > > > "Why not?" > > > > "I look in the mirror. I see my hair is black." > > > > "That's uh, interesting. I guess you understand that you have green > hair > > about as well as you understand that you're a terrible reporter." > > > > "What do you mean? What did I do?" > > > > "That's a very interesting reaction," Fortuny said. "Why didn't you > get so > > defensive when I said you had green hair?" If I were certain that I > wasn't a > > terrible reporter, he explained, I would have laughed the > suggestion off > > just as easily. The willingness of trolling "victims" to be hurt by > words, > > he argued, makes them complicit, and trolling will end as soon as > we all get > > over it. > > > > Jay > > > > -- > > http://jaydedman.com > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >