what do you do when a class does want to be able to watch via streaming 
anything from Citizen Kane &City Lights to  Thin Blue Line and The Social 
Network.

Then we say we can't get streaming and they just have to watch the DVD.

Matt

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On Jan 19, 2011, at 5:58 PM, "Jessica Rosner" 
<jessicapros...@gmail.com<mailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well a few of them could be gotten in high res but not most. They exist out 
there but it is simply too expensive for them to make it available in this kind 
of situation.
Again I can see directors/rights guys balking at unlimited access without a 
higher fee. In there minds this is for educational use
and they don't want a spillover to entertainment. My guess is they would 
probably do it but charge another $100 or so. These are all films that have had 
theatrical play (even if in some cases that was 1905) so they see institutional 
use as separate from the wider world of watching for fun.

Again if you limit yourself to titles available for lifetime rights, that 
pretty much means non fiction works heavily weighted towards material used in 
somewhat rarified instruction. There is nothing wrong with that, but what do 
you do when a class does want to be able to watch via streaming anything from 
Citizen Kane &City Lights to  Thin Blue Line and The Social Network. I can't 
imagine major studios and foreign rights holders in particular ever doing 
lifetime rights.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Ball, James (jmb4aw) 
<<mailto:jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu>jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu<mailto:jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu>>
 wrote:
Jessica,

The three "biggies" for us are:

--rights in perpetuity
--accessible to any student, staff, or faculty member of our University (not 
just those students registered for a specific course)
--permission to transcode to the streaming format of our choice

Our preference is to receive a hi-res digital version of the title.  Digitizing 
ourselves from a DVD is fine but the quality isn't as good as an MPEG4 or 
digibeta, for example.

Your pricing sounds reasonable to me.

As to your question about titles for which perpetual rights aren't possible, 
those would simply be titles that we could not consider for streaming.

Cheers,

Matt


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On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:50 PM, "Jessica Rosner" 
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 wrote:


I am working with a number of filmmakers and small distributors who would like 
to sell streaming rights for their films. It is an eclectic group but mostly 
documentaries
and classic films. Most, but not all can sell lifetime streaming rights, but 
some can only sell for their own contract term which is probably about six 
years.  I should mention some of these films are institutional only and sell 
for a few hundred dollars each and others are available retail for around $30. 
In most cases PPR rights would also be included and many of these are films 
that actually get screened on campuses. Streaming prices seem to be all over 
the map these days. I was thinking of roughly $200 extra (beyond the current 
sale price) for singledisc titles and $300 or more for multi-disc sets. As 
mentioned not all of the films will have lifetime rights, but even those for 
which the term would only be 6 years would have to be at the same price point. 
It would be possible to license a film for less for one time/semester use. 
Standard restrictions would apply such as going on password protected system 
and accessible only to students or faculty using them for a specific course.

Besides pricing the other big issue is the "access" issue. These filmmakers do 
not have the money or time to set up their own servers so they would be selling 
a physical DVD for which the institution could digitize and put on its own 
system.

I would like to know any general feedback to the above and if many of you are 
now buying or licensing streaming rights for classroom films.

You can email me on list for discussion or off list for more details etc.
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