I would absolutely separate modem and router, the modem you should get from your ISP, if it is also a Wi-Fi router make sure they turn that off and use your own. This way they are responsible for getting the internet connection into your house and to their modem, from there you connect your router and have control over your Wi-Fi, maybe a guest Wi-Fi if you set that up, you can make sure your router is updated and has a good and strong password.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 3:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark Thanks a million for this thoughtful explanation Sieghard. You really gave me great information and things to consider before I rush into ordering a new router. I thought of the Amazon Eero, but it does not have a modem builtin.i prefer a modem/router combo. Currently I have an eight years old netgear modem/router combo. It is time to upgrade. Cheers, Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Chris, you do not need a Wi-Fi 6 or 6E network for smart home devices. The > main benefit of adding the 6 Ghz band is that a router can support up to 200 > devices so unless you think you will have that many there is no huge benefit. > Some of the most bandwidth hungry devices are security cameras, video > doorbells and so on and even here you don't need Wi-Fi 6 and in fact most of > them on the market at this point don't even support the Wi-Fi 6 standard yet. > I own a retail store and we run 7 video cameras and a Nest Door Bell which > are all streaming simultaneously, there are 4 VoIP telephones and we do at > times have 3 phone calls going at the same time, there are 2 smart > thermostats, 3 Google Mini smart speakers which are set up to play > notifications from the Nest Video Door Bell, there are 3 Sonos Amp receivers > for music, a controller for our window shutters and I know I forgot some > stuff because when I was logged into my router the other day I saw that just > over 50 devices were connected. All of this runs flawlessly and with 0 issues > on a Netgear Orbi mesh system with 1 satellite in a 6500 square foot store > and I have a 500 down and 250 up fiber internet connection. > You have to remember that things like light switches, smart plugs, smart > locks and all that sort of stuff really only requires a very minimal amount > of data and there is a reason why quite a few smart home devices still > communicate on the 2.4 Ghz band; it is plenty enough and it has a better > range and is not effected as much by walls and such. > Now, don't get me wrong, if I were to set up a new Wi-Fi network or had to > upgrade because of router issues, I would absolutely recommend to go with a > router which supports the Wi-Fi 6E standard although Wi-Fi 7 is already onb > the horizon and that is the reason why I am in no hurry to upgrade, I'll > most likely wait until there is a good Wi-Fi 7 router on the market. > Another aspect which will be much more relevant to home automation and smart > devices is support for the new Matter standard and if you are looking for a > new router, don't buy anything which does not have thread/Matter support. You > can Google it, but in short it allows devices connected to the Wi-Fi to > communicate directly with each other without going out over the Internet. > This is a huge step forward because it means many of your devices would even > still work if there were no internet connection because, for example, your > smart lock or smart light switch or smart light bulb communicates directly > with your iPhojne on the Wi-Fi network whereas now the communication also > requires a working internet connection. > I know for sure that the Amazon Eeros mesh system has thread support and it's > actually supposed to be one of the better mesh systems for home automation, > I believe maybe the Google mesh system also has it, but not totally sure. I > would also make sure that any smart home device you buy whether it's a > thermostat, smart lock or light bulb has Matter support. There are more and > more devices coming on the market now and in some cases companies can add > this through a software update, but check it and make sure it's supported and > you'll be glad you did a few years down the road. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Cris Ali > Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:54 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates > from Mark > > Mark, > Since you mentioned the Mesh Linksys router, i am curious if Linksys has a > modem/wireless router combo that supports Wi-Fi 6E. I am trying to slowly > make my home a smart home based on the Apple Home Kit. This requires a very > fast router for faster responses from the smart home accessories. If you have > any info, please share. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 4, 2023, at 11:28 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >> >> Hello Richard, >> >> Wow! Thank you for the feedback on the TV Plus series. >> >> Interesting about the range extenders and Sonos. >> >> My personal opinion on routers is that people start to favor a brand or >> model and simply stick with it. I am certain that Net Gear and other brands >> are excellent. However, I started with Linksys and know the OS, by heart, >> and so see no need to switch as long as the brand continues to update. >> >> Mark >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Richard Turner >> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 4:17 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates >> from Mark >> >> Mark, I can only comment on a couple things. >> Apple TV plus is excellent. I just watched the first three episodes of >> Hijack and am impressed. >> We just bought a new Wi-Fi router, an Archer 8a I think by TP-Link. It >> greatly increased our download speed. And I believe gives us better >> coverage. We cannot use range extenders because our Sonos sound system >> doesn't link extenders. >> >> >> Richard, USA. >> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of >> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ >> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >> >> On Jul 4, 2023, at 4:03 PM, M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> >> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple >> of questions I have can be answered by experts on either list. >> >> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US. >> >> 1. >> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try. I have been resistant >> to it because I do not need all of the features included in the plan >> but, quite frankly, the billing is better when bundled. I have to >> admit that being able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, >> in Apple Music, is very, very nice. Here is a question: Is it >> possible to place VoiceOver focus such that as the lyric being sung is >> automatically read out by VO? >> >> 2. >> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus: Any suggestions as to how best to >> get started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch? >> >> 3. >> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay. >> I must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the >> non-default card, at time of purchase, is so easy. I had been >> reluctant to add a second card, for just that reason. >> >> 4. >> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of >> these, apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward >> to watching Highjacked and Silo. >> >> 5. >> I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in >> terms of technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two >> remaining hardworking and beloved PCs; one that is still running >> Windows 7 The Windows 7 PC is not connected to the internet. >> >> 6. >> Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot >> imagine using them as a primary means of navigating my life. >> >> 7. >> Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread >> that asked about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and >> range extenders. In fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for my >> home, just last week. I was delighted to discover that when you >> connect to these devices, for the first time, on an iOS device, the >> device's built-in web interface automatically launches, prompting you >> for the required info. Very, very, impressive. In fact, now that I >> think about it, these new devices can tell you when they are in the >> best location, relative to other Linksys devices, on the same >> network. How wonderful technology can be; and the best part? We have only >> scratched the surface on all that is to come. >> >> Finally, I hope you are all doing well and I do hope you will reply >> to this thread reporting your own personal Apple-related updates, also. >> >> Mark >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. 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