Thanks a million for this thoughtful explanation Sieghard. You really gave me 
great information and things to consider before I rush into ordering a new 
router. I thought of the Amazon Eero, but it does not have a modem builtin.i 
prefer a modem/router combo. Currently I have an eight years old netgear 
modem/router combo. It is time to upgrade.
Cheers,


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> On Jul 5, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Chris, you do not need a Wi-Fi 6 or 6E network for smart home devices. The 
> main benefit of adding the 6 Ghz band is that a router can support up to 200 
> devices so unless you think you will have that many there is no huge benefit. 
> Some of the most bandwidth hungry devices are security cameras, video 
> doorbells and so on and even here you don't need Wi-Fi 6 and in fact most of 
> them on the market at this point don't even support the Wi-Fi 6 standard yet.
> I own a retail store and we run 7 video cameras and a Nest Door Bell which 
> are all streaming simultaneously, there are 4 VoIP telephones and we do at 
> times have 3 phone calls going at the same time, there are 2 smart 
> thermostats, 3 Google Mini smart speakers which are set up to play 
> notifications from the Nest Video Door Bell, there are 3 Sonos Amp receivers 
> for music, a controller for our window shutters and I know I forgot some 
> stuff because when I was logged into my router the other day I saw that just 
> over 50 devices were connected. All of this runs flawlessly and with 0 issues 
> on a Netgear Orbi mesh system with 1 satellite in a 6500 square foot store 
> and I have a 500 down and 250 up fiber internet connection.
> You have to remember that things like light switches, smart plugs, smart 
> locks and all that sort of stuff really only requires a very minimal amount 
> of data and there is a reason why quite a few smart home devices still 
> communicate on the 2.4 Ghz band; it is plenty enough and it has a better 
> range and is not effected as much by walls and such.
> Now, don't get me wrong, if I were to set up a new Wi-Fi network or had to 
> upgrade because of router issues, I would absolutely recommend to go with a 
> router which supports the Wi-Fi 6E standard although Wi-Fi 7 is already onb 
> the horizon and that is the reason why I am in no hurry to upgrade, I'll  
> most likely wait until there is a good Wi-Fi 7 router on the market.
> Another aspect which will be much more relevant to home automation and smart 
> devices is support for the new Matter standard and if you are looking for a 
> new router, don't buy anything which does not have thread/Matter support. You 
> can Google it, but in short it allows devices connected to the Wi-Fi to 
> communicate directly with each other without going out over the Internet. 
> This is a huge step forward because it means many of your devices would even 
> still work if there were no internet connection because, for example, your 
> smart lock or smart light switch or smart light bulb communicates directly 
> with your iPhojne on the Wi-Fi network whereas now the communication also 
> requires a working internet connection.
> I know for sure that the Amazon Eeros mesh system has thread support and it's 
> actually supposed to be one of the better mesh systems for  home automation, 
> I believe maybe the Google mesh system also has it, but not totally sure. I 
> would also make sure that any smart home device you buy whether it's a 
> thermostat, smart lock or light bulb has Matter support. There are more and 
> more devices coming on the market now and in some cases companies can add 
> this through a software update, but check it and make sure it's supported and 
> you'll be glad you did a few years down the road.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark
> 
> Mark,
> Since you mentioned the Mesh Linksys router, i am curious if Linksys has a 
> modem/wireless router combo that supports Wi-Fi 6E. I am trying to slowly 
> make my home a smart home based on the Apple Home Kit. This requires a very 
> fast router for faster responses from the smart home accessories. If you have 
> any info, please share.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 11:28 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Richard,
>> 
>> Wow!  Thank you for the feedback on the TV Plus series.
>> 
>> Interesting about the range extenders and Sonos.
>> 
>> My personal opinion on routers is that people start to favor a brand or 
>> model and simply stick with it.  I am certain that Net Gear and other brands 
>> are excellent.  However, I started with Linksys and know the OS, by heart, 
>> and so see no need to switch as long as the brand continues to update.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 4:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates 
>> from Mark
>> 
>> Mark, I can only comment on a couple things.
>> Apple TV plus is excellent. I just watched the first three episodes of 
>> Hijack and am impressed.
>> We just bought a new Wi-Fi router, an Archer 8a I think by TP-Link. It 
>> greatly increased our download speed. And I believe gives us better 
>> coverage. We cannot use range extenders because our Sonos sound system 
>> doesn't link extenders. 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 4:03 PM, M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
>> questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
>> 
>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
>> 
>> 1.
>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant 
>> to it because I do not need all of the features included in the plan 
>> but, quite frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to 
>> admit that being able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in 
>> Apple Music, is very, very nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible 
>> to place VoiceOver focus such that as the lyric being sung is automatically 
>> read out by VO?
>> 
>> 2.
>> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to 
>> get started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?
>> 
>> 3.
>> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay.  
>> I must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the non-default 
>> card, at time of purchase, is so easy.  I had been reluctant to add a 
>> second card, for just that reason.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of these, 
>> apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward to 
>> watching Highjacked and Silo.
>> 
>> 5.
>> I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in 
>> terms of technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two 
>> remaining hardworking and beloved PCs; one that is still running 
>> Windows 7  The Windows 7 PC is not connected to the internet.
>> 
>> 6.
>> Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot imagine 
>> using them as a primary means of navigating my life.
>> 
>> 7.
>> Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread that 
>> asked about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and range 
>> extenders.  In fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for my home, 
>> just last week.  I was delighted to discover that when you connect to 
>> these devices, for the first time, on an iOS device, the device's 
>> built-in web interface automatically launches, prompting you for the 
>> required info.  Very, very, impressive.  In fact, now that I think 
>> about it, these new devices can tell you when they are in the best 
>> location, relative to other Linksys devices, on the same network.  How 
>> wonderful technology can be; and the best part? We have only scratched the 
>> surface on all that is to come.
>> 
>> Finally, I hope you are all doing well and I do hope you will reply to 
>> this thread reporting your own personal Apple-related updates, also.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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