Well, given how few blind people there are, and how few apps we actually buy compared with sighted people, and considering that this model would require a complete rewrite and restructuring of the App Store, I seriously doubt it would happen unless Apple receives a great many requests for such.
The shareware model of computer software distribution does something like this. Save for small companies, shareware is not usually used because it does not typically make much money because people readily and easily crack the protection schemes. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 05/08/2013, at 11:12, Maria and Joe Chapman <bubbygirl1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. I was thinking more along the lines of the app could be downloaded and > is fully functional for a day unless you purchase a key on the mac or do an > in app purchase on the iphone. Some apps can be rather expensive, I would > not be willing to buy a 10 or 20 dollar app I could not use and probably > wouldn't unless I had heard it was at least usable in some way with voice > over. How many apps I wonder are not discovered to be accessible because > people are afraid to buy them in case they are not usable? > > > regards > Maria and crew from australia > email: > bubbygirl1...@gmail.com > check out > www.95-the-mix.com > where we play lots of great music > > > > > On 05/08/2013, at 9:01 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would rather not give Apple complete access to my phone just so they can >> occasionally check to ensure I am not pirating apps. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 05/08/2013, at 10:41, Maria and Joe Chapman <bubbygirl1...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> HI. wouldn't it work better if all apps could be downloaded for free and >>> trialled say for a day? There are lots of apps I'd love to try but am >>> hesitant to download due to the fact that there is really no way to tell if >>> they are accessible or not unless someone on list or someone on applevis >>> has tried them. I mean if it's a 99 c app it's not that bad but if it's 5 >>> or 10 bucks? That's going to get expensive. >>> Warm regards and blessings >>> Maria, Joe and FurBabies >>> Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On 03/08/2013, at 6:02 PM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote: >>> >>>> As I state in another message, I would be much more willing to support a >>>> general refund policy, such as Google has, or at least use to have, rather >>>> than an it won't work with VoiceOver policy. That is just too open to >>>> abuse. Besides, a general refund policy would be an even better way to >>>> let developers know if people didn't like their app, a bunch of them all >>>> requested refunds. It might even improve accessibility. >>>> >>>> Arnold Schmidt >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Cara Quinn >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:58 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Bad experience with iTunes Store support regarding app refund >>>> >>>> Sieghard and All, >>>> >>>> Let me encourage you and actually everyone on this list to write Apple >>>> Accessibility to request that there be reasonable accommodation in place >>>> for VoiceOver users to receive app refunds in cases like Sieghard's. I'd >>>> also suggest that Sieghard's note be attached to your own. >>>> >>>> I believe this issue needs to be brought into the forefront in a positive >>>> and decisive way. We are almost 2000 people on this list and this is a >>>> very good opportunity to make this point heard. >>>> >>>> This discussion has come up before of being alerted of VO accessibility >>>> ahead of time in the App Store and though we've not come to a set >>>> conclusion on the best way to do this, having some indication that an app >>>> has been found to be accessible to some degree with VoiceOver before we >>>> purchase it is a completely reasonable request. If this is not possible, >>>> then it is more than reasonable to ask for refunds if we cannot use an app >>>> which is not accessible to us with the available Apple universal access >>>> paradigm. >>>> >>>> the email address for Apple Accessibility is: >>>> >>>> accessibil...@apple.com >>>> >>>> These are very caring people so please keep this in mind when you write. >>>> I've known some of them personally. They want to help though there may not >>>> be a clear way of making this happen just yet. Just let them know this is >>>> important though. Make your voice heard in a friendly way. they will >>>> listen to you even if they do not know the best answer yet. :) >>>> >>>> Thanks All, for your time. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Cara :) >>>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello List, >>>> >>>> Requesting a refund for an app which turns out not to work with Voiceover >>>> has come up a few times and the iTunes Store support email has been posted >>>> in connection with that. So I thought I post my recent experience with >>>> contacting iTunes Store support via their email. >>>> >>>> I had bought a couple of package tracking apps in order to find out which >>>> one I liked best. I have been using Track This which is awesome, but I am >>>> in Canada and for some reason they don’t support Purolator and CanPar >>>> which are both major carriers here. I contacted Track This support twice >>>> and never received a reply. >>>> >>>> Anyhow, back to iTunes Store support. I provided all the information >>>> including order numbers, purchase date, my Apple Id etc. I explained how I >>>> really enjoyed my iPhone and the fantastic accessibility, but that >>>> unfortunately these two apps I purchased were not voiceover friendly and >>>> there was no Light version offered which I could have tried first. I also >>>> mentioned that I contacted both developers and after almost a week had not >>>> received a reply. In short, I was friendly, explained everything and even >>>> waited to see if the developers would reply to see if they were willing to >>>> make Voiceover improvements. >>>> >>>> I received a prompt reply in which the agent explained that all app sales >>>> are final, but that given the situation they would refund me the $6.72 or >>>> whatever it was for the 2 apps. However, she also continued to give me >>>> links as to their terms and conditions and said that this was a one-time >>>> curtocy and that in the future they could not provide any more refunds and >>>> that it was up to me to make sure I didn’t turn on one-click ordering and >>>> accidently purchase apps or read the app description to be sure it was >>>> what I wanted. It was strange because all of this gave me the impression >>>> this person did not at all get the point about Voiceover and all that, but >>>> on the other hand she said they would give me a refund given the >>>> situation. According to what she said I should see the refund back on my >>>> account within 48 hours and since both apps were purchased using store >>>> credit it would come back as store credit. This is now 2 weeks ago and I >>>> replied twice to the initial message to explain that I still had not >>>> received the credit and I am getting no more replies. >>>> >>>> I guess what I want to say here is that those who have done this and >>>> received refunds are lucky, but it appears one should definitely not count >>>> on getting a refund even if an app turns out not to work with Voiceover. 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