I would rather not give Apple complete access to my phone just so they can 
occasionally check to ensure I am not pirating apps.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 05/08/2013, at 10:41, Maria and Joe Chapman <bubbygirl1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> HI.  wouldn't it work better if all apps could be downloaded for free and 
> trialled say for a day? There are lots of apps I'd love to try but am 
> hesitant to download due to the fact that there is really no way to tell if 
> they are accessible or not unless someone on list or someone on applevis has 
> tried them. I mean if it's a 99 c app it's not that bad but if it's 5 or 10 
> bucks? That's going to get expensive.
> Warm regards and blessings 
> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 03/08/2013, at 6:02 PM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
>> As I state in another message, I would be much more willing to support a 
>> general refund policy, such as Google has, or at least use to have, rather 
>> than an it won't work with VoiceOver policy.  That is just too open to 
>> abuse.   Besides, a general refund policy would be an even better way to let 
>> developers know if people didn't like their app, a bunch of them all 
>> requested refunds.   It might even improve accessibility. 
>>  
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Cara Quinn
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: Bad experience with iTunes Store support regarding app refund
>> 
>> Sieghard and All,
>> 
>> Let me encourage you and actually everyone on this list to write Apple 
>> Accessibility to request that there be reasonable accommodation in place for 
>> VoiceOver users to receive app refunds in cases like Sieghard's. I'd also 
>> suggest that Sieghard's note be attached to your own.
>> 
>> I believe this issue needs to be brought into the forefront in a positive 
>> and decisive way. We are almost 2000 people on this list and this is a very 
>> good opportunity to make this point heard.
>> 
>> This discussion has come up before of being alerted of VO accessibility 
>> ahead of time in the App Store and though we've not come to a set conclusion 
>> on the best way to do this, having some indication that an app has been 
>> found to be accessible to some degree with VoiceOver before we purchase it 
>> is a completely reasonable request. If this is not possible, then it is more 
>> than reasonable to ask for refunds if we cannot use an app which is not 
>> accessible to us with the available Apple universal access paradigm.
>> 
>> the email address for Apple Accessibility is:
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> These are very caring people so please keep this in mind when you write. 
>> I've known some of them personally. They want to help though there may not 
>> be a clear way of making this happen just yet. Just let them know this is 
>> important though. Make your voice heard in a friendly way. they will listen 
>> to you even if they do not know the best answer yet. :)
>> 
>> Thanks All, for your time.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello List,
>>  
>> Requesting a refund for an app which turns out not to work with Voiceover 
>> has come up a few times and the iTunes Store support email has been posted 
>> in connection with that. So I thought I post my recent experience with 
>> contacting iTunes Store support via their email.
>>  
>> I had bought a couple of package tracking apps in order to find out which 
>> one I liked best. I have been using Track This which is awesome, but I am in 
>> Canada and for some reason they don’t support Purolator and CanPar which are 
>> both major carriers here. I contacted Track This support twice and never 
>> received a reply.
>>  
>> Anyhow, back to iTunes Store support. I provided all the information 
>> including order numbers, purchase date, my Apple Id etc. I explained how I 
>> really enjoyed my iPhone and the fantastic accessibility, but that 
>> unfortunately these two apps I purchased were not voiceover friendly and 
>> there was no Light version offered which I could have tried first. I also 
>> mentioned that I contacted both developers and after almost a week had not 
>> received a reply. In short, I was friendly, explained everything and even 
>> waited to see if the developers would reply to see if they were willing to 
>> make Voiceover improvements.
>>  
>> I received a prompt reply in which the agent explained that all app sales 
>> are final, but that given the situation they would refund me the $6.72 or 
>> whatever it was for the 2 apps. However, she also continued to give me links 
>> as to their terms and conditions and said that this was a one-time curtocy 
>> and that in the future they could not provide any more refunds and that it 
>> was up to me to make sure I didn’t turn on one-click ordering and accidently 
>> purchase apps or read the app description to be sure it was what I wanted. 
>> It was strange because all of this gave me the impression this person did 
>> not at all get the point about Voiceover and all that, but on the other hand 
>> she said they would give me a refund given the situation. According to what 
>> she said I should see the refund back on my account within 48 hours and 
>> since both apps were purchased using store credit it would come back as 
>> store credit. This is now 2 weeks ago and I replied twice to the initial 
>> message to explain that I still had not received the credit and I am getting 
>> no more replies.
>>  
>> I guess what I want to say here is that those who have done this and 
>> received refunds are lucky, but it appears one should definitely not count 
>> on getting a refund even if an app turns out not to work with Voiceover. I 
>> certainly will not buy an app again thinking I might as well try it because 
>> if it doesn’t work I can always ask for a refund.
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
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