If we as blind people use the finger print reader and it works better with 64 bit then it's totally relevant to us. As to running a 32 vs 64 bit program they are usually the same. It is dependant on what is on the computer. So if you installed a 32bit operating system then your software needs to be 32bit as well.
On 9/17/13, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Reggie and Allegra > > On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > This has nothing to do with Apple versus Windows. In a 32-bit chip, you only > have 32 bits to use when loading an address into a register. This means that > you can only access 4 gigabytes of memory on a 32-bit chip using just one > register access. There are techniques that can be used to get to more memory > from a 32-bit chip or a 32-bit operating system but these involve memory > mapping and start impacting performance. > > Note that the 5s may appear faster than the 5, but this will be due to a > faster chip and not the fact that it's 64-bit. I doubt very much anyone will > notice a performance increase because of the 64-bit chip. This will come > down the road later. > > On 09/17/2013 11:14 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: >> Hi, I believe the 4gb of memory access applies to Windows-based >> operating systems and not Apple devices. But I am just spewing out what >> I think I know. It's true that in Windows if you have a 32-bit system >> and more than 4gb of ram, only the first 4gb will be used, but 64-bit >> will use more than 4gb. But isn't this Apples and Oranges, or better >> yet, Apples and Windows? >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos >> Everyone's mature until the bubble wrap comes out. - Sheldon Cooper >> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 >> >> On 9/16/2013 9:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >>> I'm not sure what articles you're reading. I think it's true that you >>> won't see any advantage to the iPhone having a 64-bit processor at the >>> moment, although I've definitely read articles that say it does speed up >>> the finger print scanning and a few other things. >>> >>> It's absolutely not true though that the only thing you get from a >>> 64-bit operating system is the ability to address more than 4G of real >>> memory. If you're reading an article that states that then you should >>> stop reading because the author clearly doesn't know what they're >>> talking about. Obviously, you will be able to address more than 4G of >>> memory, but you can also pass more information between processes at one >>> time, address a larger file system and so on. When dealing with large >>> amounts of data, such as in a database or a spread sheet, there's less >>> memory indirection, so there's improved performance. There's a reason >>> servers, desktops and laptops have all gone to 64-bit processors, >>> operating systems and applications, and it isn't just marketing. >>> >>> Just as with PC's, Macs and laptops, the hardware had to move to 64-bit >>> before the operating system and applications could start taking >>> advantage of it. that's exactly what we're seeing now. You may not see >>> advantage to the 64-bit chips in the iPhone today, but it's a necessary >>> step to get to the applications that need the additional memory, file >>> system size and computing power. >>> >>> On 09/16/2013 09:32 PM, Mike wrote: >>>> From everything I've read 64 bit only makes a difference when your >>>> using at or above 4gb of ram. The iPhone definitely doesn't have that >>>> much so I really don't get the point of it. >>>> I've come across more than one article saying that this is just >>>> marketing and won't make a bit of difference in performance. >>>> >>>> Mike m >>>> How to be Blind >>>> www.htb2.com >>>> Roundtable podcasts, software reviews, accessibility tutorials, and >>>> more! >>>> >>>> On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:54 PM, "Alan Paganelli" >>>> <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> They said in the presentation that they wanted to give the iPhone the >>>>> power of a desktop only in a mobile. I think it was inevitable. >>>>> ------- >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013! >>>>> >>>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act >>>>> now!!!!! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know >>>>> everything. >>>>> >>>>> Please click on: >>>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >>>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances >>>>> played on >>>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly >>>>> on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain" >>>>> <chalt...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 10:34 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's possible reason for going 64Bit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> How so? Is this just because it's 64-bit or is it because of the >>>>>> additional features and performance obtained by going to 64-bit? >>>>>> >>>>>> There was also some marketing going on here as well. It's only a >>>>>> matter of time before Samsung and others start taking advantage of >>>>>> 64-bit ARM chips in their hand sets, and now Apple can claim to be >>>>>> the first. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 09/16/2013 07:15 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: >>>>>>> It could facilitate adoption by the Government as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Joseph FreeTech >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:35 AM >>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Apple's possible reason for going 64Bit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just came across the following article and decided to post some >>>>>>> text I >>>>>>> found >>>>>>> interesting. The following is the author's reasoning for why Apple >>>>>>> added >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> 64bit chip to the new iPhone: for new features to work, Apple >>>>>>> absolutely >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> to begin using the 64bit chip. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "But here's the difference. Apple needs 64-bit for fingerprint >>>>>>> authentication as well as the camera features the company has added >>>>>>> to the >>>>>>> latest iPhone. In other words, 64-bit is an enabler to features >>>>>>> that may >>>>>>> matter to the masses. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's also an enterprise play here too. With 64-bit and >>>>>>> fingerprint >>>>>>> authentication, Apple can make a good security case to companies as >>>>>>> well as >>>>>>> support end-to-end virtual private networks. Third party support >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> determine if Apple has more enterprise mojo due to 64-bit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple did make the iPhone 5S backward compatible and developers can >>>>>>> reportedly transition apps to 64-bit easily. There's a good reason >>>>>>> for that >>>>>>> move: 64-bit is a selling point in only limited cases. Like the PC >>>>>>> industry >>>>>>> saw, the ecosystem has to catch up to 64-bit and that can take >>>>>>> years." >>>>>>> http://www.zdnet.com/the-iphone-5s-goes-64-bit-will-it-matter-7000020497/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joseph >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Christopher (CJ) >>>>>> chaltain at Gmail >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>>>>> >>>>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>>>>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>> Google Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google Group. >>>>> >>>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> >>>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>>>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>> Google Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>> >> > > -- > Christopher (CJ) > chaltain at Gmail > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.the bit > question brings up a question not necessarily related to iPhone, but I > really need to know. I want to download Jaws as a demo and see both 32 bit > and 64 bit. How do I know what to download? I would not even thought the 5s > was different if it was not talked about. If it is faster, I would just be > ecstatic and not know why. :) Will have a lot of questions tomorrow about > how to get everything that can be used on an iPad on the iPad! Just a > warning! 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