Hello Sieghard and others, How do you "force quit" all apps and reset the network settings? Is this done by powering off the phone and then restarting it? I've never done those things when backing up before an IOS upgrade, and I've never had any problems. But it's good to know about another method to help safeguard apps, etc.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 10:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes Syncing Advice Sought Kelly said "when upgrading one should do a device backup" and in that context (the context of upgrading to a new iOS version) the recommendation to force quit all apps and do a Reset Network Settings comes in. Kelly did say one "must" do this which is not strictly true, but one proponent of this for example is Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast. Whenever he does mention this he usually says that most of the time upgrading goes OK without doing this, but that the likelihood that something might go wrong is much greater if you don't do this. I would agree with this, I have seen way too many upgrades from friends or acquaintances result in problems of various severity and whenever this happens and I asked if they at least force quit all apps and maybe did a restart of the device they said no, they just went ahead and started the update process. In my opinion it is reasonable that fewer problems occur if you do this. iOS may be better than other platforms in this respect, but it's not perfect and apps can use resources or access processes which may interfere with an update and I don't see why I should take this risk if 2 easy steps may avoid it. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 7:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes Syncing Advice Sought Hi Kelly, If I'm understanding your post, before backing up one's iDevice, you're stating one must or should: "The end user needs to force quit all apps and reset network settings so no apps are using the device's antennas." Why would this be necessary, or how would this step make for a better backup? <Smile>. Joseph the free tech guy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellyt...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 7:22 AM Subject: Re: iTunes Syncing Advice Sought Alan, YOu are combining the tasks of backup and synchronization. there is a setting in the file menu to initiate a device backup. also, when upgrading, end users should do a backup to iCloud and then an itunes backup. The end user needs to force quit all apps and reset network settings so no apps are using the device's antennas. Kelly On 6/8/14, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi Alan, > > There’s a feature under the device menu to transfer purchases from the > device to iTunes, so this will take care of the apps thing. > > In terms of the Ringtones, this should come over when purchases are > transferred. > > In terms of the data, you can back it up to the iCloud, at which point, > you > an retrieve it using the cloud back up service. > > If I’m incorrect, someone can please correct me. > > > Victor Gouveia > Vice-President > Training Coordinator > VIP Tech > Tel: 1-888-640-6661 > Fax: 1-888-640-6669 > Home: victor.gouv...@rogers.com > Work: viptrain...@rogers.com > Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities > > From: Alan Paganelli > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 5:34 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iTunes Syncing Advice Sought > > Each device you sync with iTunes is treated separately even though all the > apps are in the same folder in iTunes. So, if you have both an iPhone and > an iPad, iTunes keeps track of which are which. > > Regards, > > Alan > > I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being > ridiculous - everyone > hasn't met me yet. > > Please click on: > > HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ > There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played > on > the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on > my > website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alan Lemly > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 1:45 PM > Subject: iTunes Syncing Advice Sought > > A few months ago when convincing a friend to use iTunes to backup and > upgrade her iPhone 5 to iOS 7, she got burned when her phone had to be > totally wiped and re-activated before the upgrade would complete. Also, > since all the apps she had were obtained using her phone which had never > been synced to her computer using iTunes, she lost all her apps and > related > data. > > > > I've since learned that backing up your phone to your computer with > iTunes > only backs up the apps which have been synced to the computer with iTunes. > > > > I am now attempting to get totally familiar with iTunes and syncing so > that I have no further surprises in the future. The first question I need > help with is how to proceed when the phone being synced has much on it > that > the computer does not and the computer also has items on it that the phone > does not. Specifically, the phone has all the apps and related data and > the > computer's iTunes has several custom ringtones not on the phone. How does > one perform a sync without losing one of the differing data sources? I'm > assuming the sync will prompt you to pick which device controls the sync > the > first time it's done, i.e., which device's data survives and controls the > sync. What I want is the ability to keep all the data from both devices > the > first time the sync is completed. > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations on how to do this? Thanks in > advance > for any assistance. > > > > Alan Lemly > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you > have > any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel > that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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