Hello Sieghard,
Can you tell us wwhere we can get the Rob Today in iOS Podcast please, Billy


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 09 June 2014 16:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes Syncing Advice Sought

Kelly said "when upgrading one should do a device backup" and in that context 
(the context of upgrading to a new iOS version) the recommendation to force 
quit all apps and do a Reset Network Settings comes in. Kelly did say one 
"must" do this which is not strictly true, but one proponent of this for 
example is Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast. Whenever he does mention this he 
usually says that most of the time upgrading goes OK without doing this, but 
that the likelihood that something might go wrong is much greater if you don't 
do this.
I would agree with this, I have seen way too many upgrades from friends or 
acquaintances result in problems of various severity and whenever this happens 
and I asked if they at least force quit all apps and maybe did a restart of the 
device they said no, they just went ahead and started the update process.
In my opinion it is reasonable that fewer problems occur if you do this. iOS 
may be better than other platforms in this respect, but it's not perfect and 
apps can use resources or access processes which may interfere with an update 
and I don't see why I should take this risk if 2 easy steps may avoid it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Syncing Advice Sought

Hi Kelly,

If I'm understanding your post, before backing up one's iDevice, you're stating 
one must or should: "The end user needs to force quit all apps and reset 
network settings so no apps are using the device's antennas."

Why would this be necessary, or how would this step make for a better backup? 
<Smile>.

Joseph the free tech guy!

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From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellyt...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: iTunes Syncing Advice Sought


Alan,

YOu are combining the tasks of backup and synchronization.  there is a setting 
in the file menu to initiate a device backup.  also, when upgrading, end users 
should do a backup to iCloud and then an itunes backup.  The end user needs to 
force quit all apps and reset network settings so no apps are using the 
device's antennas.

Kelly



On 6/8/14, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com> wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> There’s a feature under the device menu to transfer purchases from the 
> device to iTunes, so this will take care of the apps thing.
>
> In terms of the Ringtones, this should come over when purchases are 
> transferred.
>
> In terms of the data, you can back it up to the iCloud, at which 
> point, you an retrieve it using the cloud back up service.
>
> If I’m incorrect, someone can please correct me.
>
>
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> From: Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 5:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes Syncing Advice Sought
>
> Each device you sync with iTunes is treated separately even though all 
> the apps are in the same folder in iTunes.  So, if you have both an 
> iPhone and an iPad, iTunes keeps track of which are which.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
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>   From: Alan Lemly
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 1:45 PM
>   Subject: iTunes Syncing Advice Sought
>
>   A few months ago when convincing a friend to use iTunes to backup 
> and upgrade her iPhone 5 to iOS 7, she got burned when her phone had 
> to be totally wiped and re-activated before the upgrade would 
> complete. Also, since all the apps she had were obtained using her 
> phone which had never been synced to her computer using iTunes, she 
> lost all her apps and related data.
>
>
>
>   I've since learned that backing up your phone to your computer with 
> iTunes only backs up the apps which have been synced to the computer 
> with iTunes.
>
>
>
>   I am now attempting to get totally familiar with iTunes and syncing 
> so that I have no further surprises in the future. The first question 
> I need help with is how to proceed when the phone being synced has 
> much on it that the computer does not and the computer also has items 
> on it that the phone does not. Specifically, the phone has all the 
> apps and related data and the computer's iTunes has several custom 
> ringtones not on the phone. How does one perform a sync without losing 
> one of the differing data sources? I'm assuming the sync will prompt 
> you to pick which device controls the sync the first time it's done, 
> i.e., which device's data survives and controls the sync. What I want 
> is the ability to keep all the data from both devices the first time 
> the sync is completed.
>
>
>
>   Does anyone have any recommendations on how to do this? Thanks in 
> advance for any assistance.
>
>
>
>   Alan Lemly
>
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