See https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2862-A-Simple-LENR-Magnetic-Radiation-Shield/
and my posts in https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/1853-Ask-questions-to-Dr-Sveinn-%C3%93lafsson-Science-Institute-University-of-Iceland/ On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Axil-- > > I am interested in the ideas you have put forth below. > > It would be nice if you were to add some references to the documents you > have that substantiate the various ideas. For example I am not familiar > with the notion of a magnetic beam. Magnetic fields are the classical > notion of what you may be calling a magnetic beam. Does the beam shine out > at a certain velocity? Is the beam made of particles as suggested by the > term beam? Are the particles virtual particles in a virtual monopole beam > since they seem to originate from virtual quarks. A reference to Twister > theory would be nice. > > Bob Cook > > *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:38 AM > *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note > > There is a BIG difference between optical cavities and SPPs in that SPPs > are spinners and optical cavities are not. The SPP produces a monopole > magnetic beam. That is a quantum energy pathway into the SPP where nuclear > energy is transferred into the SPP directly through entanglement. This is > called energy teleportation. The nuclear energy that is generated in the > LENR reaction is transferred magnetically between the nucleus and the SPP. > > Because the SPP is an analog monopole, it is governed by non-associative > quantum mechanics. This is difficult stuff to understand and might allow > the teleportation of neutrons and protons in addition to energy. > > IMHO, Twistor theory is involved in LENR. It was first proposed by Roger > Penrose in 1967. He has been working on this stuff for 50 years and did > make much progress until he began to use non-associative quantum mechanics. > > The protons and neutrons in the nucleus contain quarks and they are > monopole spinners, When the SPP monopole beam enters the nucleus, it causes > the protons and neutrons to decay. They decay into mesons. These mesons > produce on decay all kinds of pions and muons that disrupt nuclear material > in and around the monopole beam. This is where all those mesons and > electrons are coming from in Holmlids experiments and Rossi’s XCat. > > Also hexagonal crystals get involved such as metalize hydrogen as an SPP > accumulation and concentration mechanism. The SPP monopole covering makes > these crystals indestructible. How that magnetic shield works, I do not > understand yet. > > I have documents on all this stuff if you are interested in more detail. > > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 6:06 AM, Stephen Cooke <stephen_coo...@hotmail.com > > wrote: > >> Many thanks Axil it's a very good paper and both you and Mark in your two >> responses answered my questions very well. >> >> It's very very interesting that Hawking radiation could be generated from >> plasmons in this way. >> >> I still need to study it in detail but I notice that they say that these >> cavities can work with light of any frequency not just infra red and >> optical is in normal lasers. Does this literally mean it can absorb high >> energy gamma as well? Or are they emphasising it can work at other higher >> frequencies than IR and Optical but not necessarily up to gamma. >> >> I'm curious because as far as I can see with normal plasmons the plasma >> frequency is a few eV 15 eV for Nickel for example. This may be increased >> slightly if the nickel atoms are heavily ionised some how but still would >> be In the 10 or low 100s eV maximum. This is due to the sqrt relationship >> electron density in metals. Even if we take Dirac plasmons into account and >> the material is generating 2D or 1D electron flow the plasma frequency >> drops slightly due to a more reduced effect of the electron density. So >> wouldn't plasmons not absorb photons above the plasma frequency energy? >> >> If what I say above is correct then only degenerate materials such as >> occur in White dwarf stars would have sufficient electron density to have a >> plasmon frequency in the 1 keV or 10s keV range maybe up to a hundred or so >> keV range maximum. >> >> Interestingly it could be that UDH and UDD with atomic separations of a >> few pm could maybe have sufficient electron density for this. This might be >> important to Holmlids. Results if UHD is implicated directly or if it >> surrounds nano clusters thereby containing emissions below a few 10s keV >> within. This could be important for K shell electron stimulation, auger X >> Ray emission or nucleus stimulation effects. >> >> (I wonder if UDH and UDD is in some way a little piece of a white dwarf >> star! ;) ) >> >> But if I understand right even degenerate matter would not absorb gamma >> in the MeV range. >> >> Is this correct or is the absorption due to another process or is the >> electron density enhanced massively somehow due to cavitation I wonder. Or >> is it only a analogue black hole to light below these plasma frequency >> frequencies? To be fair probably I need to study the paper more to fully >> understand what I am missing. >> >> Even lower energy plasma frequency and light absorption could be >> important even if it extends only to low energy X-rays or UV. And similar >> Hawking radiation effects could still be relevant. This could also still >> have an impact on electron transmission emission from atoms and absorption >> perhaps leading to atomic scale stimulation effects especially in the bulk. >> Or Bremsstrahlung at the most intense low energy frequencies perhaps >> leading to electron plasma thermal excitation. >> >> On 12 mrt. 2016, at 07:48, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> http://www.nature.com/articles/srep02607 >> >> Cavity Optical Pulse Extraction: ultra-short pulse generation as seeded >> Hawking radiation >> >> This article shows how a Dark Mode optical cavity (which is what an SPP >> really is) can absorb light and store it, then later release it as Hawking >> radiation (heat) at a latter time. The optical cavity acts as a black hole. >> >> I say that all these "Dark Mode" objects share a dualism with the >> astronomical black hole which allows them to do unexpected things like >> catalyze LENR. >> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Stephen Cooke < >> stephen_coo...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Axil a couple of quick questions? >>> >>> Was it confirmed the pulse was only a few seconds? I thought they only >>> spotted it in the spectrum at the end of longer session but are not sure >>> exactly when and how long it lasted once initiated? >>> >>> I have been trying to find papers and references on high energy gamma >>> absorption by SPP... I suppose your dark mode plasmons could you point me >>> to a reference? Also Does it require degenerate matter to form or some >>> other method? I know you have circulated a lot of documents and background >>> on the broader ideas about SPP but is there is one you recommend that >>> specifically on these points? >>> >>> Thanks Stephen >>> >>> On 11 mrt. 2016, at 23:16, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Something must produce those electrons and that something (Alpha. beta} >>> produces EMF energy at a well defined gamma level. >>> >>> Bright mode release of "*photons*" from SPPs when they decay...before >>> an SPP BEC becomes active. >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Axil-- >>>> >>>> Bremsstrahlung radiation is due to inelastic scattering of electrons as >>>> they pass through matter. There are no resonances. The radiations occurs >>>> as a result of an electron changing direction as a result of the electric >>>> field it is passing through. This change in direction (acceleration) saps >>>> energy from the kinetic energy of the free electron and distributes that >>>> energy as electromagnetic radiation equivalent to the loss of kinetic >>>> energy of the electron. The spectrum is random photons because the >>>> distance and charge of particles being encountered by an energetic electron >>>> is random. Thus the forces on the electron, whether due to other lattice >>>> electrons or positive charges in the lattice are random in magnitude. >>>> >>>> Landau distributions of the energy of photons do not apply to free >>>> electrons unless they are at relativistic velocities and have an effective >>>> mass like a proton, pion, alpha or other heavy particle. >>>> >>>> What do you consider is the likely mechanism producing the "Landau >>>> distribution" you suggest? Specifically, what particles are involved in >>>> the generation of the spectrum? >>>> >>>> Bob Cook >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil >>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 10:19 AM >>>> To: vortex-l >>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note >>>> >>>> The seconds long MFMP X-ray burst is smooth and demonstrates no >>>> resonance energy peaks caused by the interaction of electrons with >>>> matter. The MFMP burst is strictly a release of photons in a random >>>> energy distribution. >>>> >>>> A Landau distribution is what we are seeing in the MFMP radiation >>>> plot. It is the release of energy by particles based on a random >>>> release process. This is seen when a particle gives up its kinetic >>>> energy to a thin film as the particles interact randomly with the >>>> matter in the thin film. >>>> >>>> If SPPs are releasing their energy based on a random timeframe and/or >>>> based on a random accumulation amount, a Landau distribution of energy >>>> release will be seen. >>>> >>>> You might see a Landau distribution if there is a random mixing of >>>> both low energy photons (infrared) and high energy photons (gamma's >>>> from the nucleus); >>>> >>>> Such mixing is produced by Fano resonance, where an SPPs are being fed >>>> by both infrared photon pumping and nuclear based gamma photon >>>> absorption. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Electrons may have nothing to do with the x-ray radiation. >>>>> >>>>> The radiation could be produced by photon based quasiparticles. >>>>> >>>>> The LENR reaction might start with Surface Plasmon Polaritons >>>>> initiated nuclear reactions and then after thermalization, the decay >>>>> of those SPPs. When the SPPs decay, they release their energy content >>>>> as photons of varng energies, >>>>> >>>>> After a second or two, a Bose condensate of these SPPs form and the >>>>> energy of the photons are released as hawking radiation which is >>>>> thermal. >>>>> >>>>> The radiation seen only lasts for a second. >>>>> >>>>> In LENR we get either high energy radiation (x-rays) or heat; not >>>>> both. This is based on the temperature of the reactor. A cold reactor >>>>> produces X-Rays because of weak SPP pumping.. >>>>> >>>>> The SPP absorbs nuclear binding energy and stores it in a whispering >>>>> gallery wave (WGW) in a dark mode. The energy is stored inside the WGW >>>>> until the WGW goes to a bright mode when the SPP decays. This >>>>> conversion from dark mode to bright mode happens in a random >>>>> distribution. >>>>> >>>>> When the temperature is raised over a thermal conversion limit, a BEC >>>>> is formed where the stored nuclear binding energy is released from the >>>>> SPP BEC as hawking radiation which is thermal. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The effectiveness of the SS can at stopping any high energy electrons >>>>>> that >>>>>> cause Bremsstrahlung would depend upon the thickness of the can (or >>>>>> alumina) >>>>>> and the energy of the incident electrons. I think the loss of energy >>>>>> per >>>>>> scattering event is proportional to Z ^2 for the nucleus that is >>>>>> doing the >>>>>> scattering. Al at Z=13 and with Fe at Z=26 the intensity of the >>>>>> Bremsstrahlung signal would be about a factor of 4 different. The >>>>>> mean >>>>>> length of the path of an electron is a good parameter to know for any >>>>>> given >>>>>> substance (basically its density) vs the incident energy of the >>>>>> electron. >>>>>> Shielding engineering curves provide this information I believe. >>>>>> Iron >>>>>> being significantly more dense than Al2O3 would be much better at >>>>>> slowing >>>>>> electrons and thus producing Bremsstrahlung IMHO. >>>>>> >>>>>> At high electron energies the change of direction of the electron >>>>>> going >>>>>> through SS can would be less than for a low energy electron. For slow >>>>>> electrons scattering can significantly change the direction of an >>>>>> incident >>>>>> electron such that all Bremsstrahlung would be emitted from the >>>>>> material >>>>>> that stopped the electron. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think with a SS can present in the system vs no can and only Alumina >>>>>> stopping the electrons, one would expect to see a more intense signal >>>>>> at >>>>>> high energy compared to the spectrum from the Alumina reactor >>>>>> chamber. The >>>>>> absorption of the EM Bremsstrahlung by the respective media would >>>>>> also have >>>>>> to be considered. Neither Alumina nor SS may transmit some of the >>>>>> Bremsstrahlung spectrum very well. Thus the effective shielding of >>>>>> the EM >>>>>> radiation considering a distributed source would have to be evaluated >>>>>> for >>>>>> the resulting high energy EM and the signal intensity corrected >>>>>> accordingly. >>>>>> The cut off at the high energy spectrum will be a useful value to >>>>>> know to >>>>>> understand the maximum energy of the electron source. This may >>>>>> provide >>>>>> information about the reaction producing the electrons. The change >>>>>> of the >>>>>> intensity of the Bremsstrahlung signal as a function of the magnetic >>>>>> field >>>>>> would also provide information as to whether or not the lattice >>>>>> orientation >>>>>> of the nano fuel was important. One might expect that the electrons >>>>>> being >>>>>> produced by the respective LENR reaction would produced in some >>>>>> preferred >>>>>> direction. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob Cook >>>>>> From: Bob Higgins >>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 6:09 AM >>>>>> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>>>> Subject: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know if other Vorts thought of this already... but I had a >>>>>> minor >>>>>> epiphany regarding the radiation that MFMP measured in GS5.2. We >>>>>> identified >>>>>> this radiation tentatively as bremsstrahlung. This has certain >>>>>> implications. Bremsstrahlung requires that the high speed electrons >>>>>> impact >>>>>> on a high atomic mass element so as to be accelerated/decelerated >>>>>> quickly to >>>>>> produce the radiation. It could be that the stainless steel can that >>>>>> contained the fuel was an important component in seeing the >>>>>> bremsstrahlung. >>>>>> Without the can, there would still be the Ni for the electrons to >>>>>> hit, but >>>>>> the Ni is covered with light atomic mass Li. If the electrons were to >>>>>> strike alumina (no fuel can present), I don't think there would be >>>>>> nearly as >>>>>> much bremsstrahlung because alumina is comprised of light elements. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thus, the stainless steel can for the fuel may be an important >>>>>> component for >>>>>> seeing the bremsstrahlung. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob Higgins >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
