From: Blaze Spinnaker Wow a lot of sound and fury. Let's all wait for the ERV report or court filings from Darden & Co.
Blaze, there will not likely be an ERV report, due to the Lawsuit. First, let me say to Walker that there are no selective memories here– only selective extracts of Rossi’s unsubstantiated claim, being presented as fact. Yes - IH accepted the 2012 Test on face value, before they had their own experts assembled - paid a large sum up front to become a player, and hired Rossi’s old friends and countrymen to continue the work in Miami. That much is not in dispute. It is admirable that they took such a risk since that 2012 device probably never worked. The following comments are copyrighted and not for any use outside this forum. They are offered as a counterpoint to the blindly supportive comments of Rossi’s fan club. There are two sides to most Lawsuits, and IH’s side needs to be presented more fairly. They are the good guys here, but that is by default as Rossi is a life-long con artist who will be exposed if this goes to trial. First, there is no proof that IH agreed to any ERV… or that the testing would remain exclusively under Rossi’s control. In fact IH seems to have implied that they hired experts from Carolina and Rossi would not let them in the facility! It is my belief that IH cannot be sure that the blue box device ever ran at all, much less produced excess energy. We will have to wait for IH’s legal filings to see how deep Rossi’s con-game goes. The bottom line is that the so-called “customer” was actually the President of Leonardo, a plaintiff. And, not only did IH never see any excess heat from any device of Rossi – they cannot be sure that it ever ran at all. To the cynic, these dynamics could end up looking more like some kind of civil extortion attempt than a breach of contract. In fact, all of the pictures from JM show a pristine box that simply cannot have been an active boiler – it is too clean. Have you ever seen a working boiler? Plus, there was no way to use steam in that facility, even if the boiler made steam. The steam, if there ever was any, had to be ported to an outside drain and was never used for anything of a commercial nature - which implies that the “customer” and his so-called business usage of steam is a complete sham. The so-called ERV report cannot be released for this very reason. First of all, it would be an admission that Penon and Fabiani – who are not licensed in the USA to do this kind of work, ran an illegal steam boiler in Miami for a year. Steam boilers are highly regulated. The civil fine could be several thousand dollars per day. The two of them would be immediately deported and probably lose their engineering license in Italy, if complaints were filed there. IH now has leverage over Johnson, the President of IH, who could lose his legal license over permitting an illegal boiler to be run without a permit - if not being accused of being a party to a civil extortion attempt, that is: if there is proof of that, or if the DA should be able to get an indictment. That’s right, this is shaping up to look like more than a contract dispute. Look for attorney Johnson to bail very soon, since this is very serious business for him, as the President of Leonardo, also a plaintiff and the “customer,” and housing the testing space – and therefore a full party to any fraud, and there is always a hint of fraud in such conflicting roles. He should bail immediately. If the Miami DA thinks Johnson has abetted another of Rossi’s scams, then both he and AR are in deep - for more than they bargained for. (I am not alleging that either did anything criminal – the DA will decide that). This explains another reason for the very existence of the Lawsuit. Rossi has all this faked data – supposedly 18 volumes and he cannot release it because it will screw his friends Penon , Fabiani and Johnson, the President of Leonardo – who now, if the DA smells civil extortion, can charge them under RICO. The stakes are much higher than you may have imagined because there is so much money involved - $100,000,000 plus damages. That is quite a swindle. Please note, I am not accusing anyone of a crime or even a civil tort, since the evidence does not support that yet, and we have not even seen IH’s answer to the complaint. The drama is intense, and IH may be partly to blame for not being proactice. But a number of recent cases like Fuhrman v. California Satellite Systems (1986) have held that a civil action for extortion does in fact exist in similar commercial circumstances, but … like most torts this requires a showing of damages. Rossi definitely has damaged several reputations here – there is no doubt about that. Rossi continues to this day to bad mouth IH, Darden, Vaughn etc. They came into this with good reputations, Rossi did not. The plaintiffs and their Lawyer, made a huge mistake in starting this episode out with a PR release, since that opens them to full financial jeopardy – becoming proof of actual intent – which is to besmirch the reputation of IH/Cherokee and Darden, and Vaughn. This could cost Rossi millions, if IH decides to countersue for civil extortion – and Penon or Johnson or both were to bail to protect their own financial interests. You can almost bet that one or both will get clear of this sinking ship - and probably this month if they are smart. Ian Walker wrote: Hi all Some people seem to suffer from a selective memory glitch. HIGH TEMPERATURE E-CAT MODULE Test of July 16th, 2012 for E-Cat Certification Was with a three man test team of: :Fabio Penon , M.Eng. (Nuclear Engineer, Product Certification Specialist) E-Cat Electronic Control System Specialist :Fulvio Fabiani, M.Eng. Radiation Protection Report: David Bianchini, M.Sc (Physicist, Radiation Measurements Specialist). The test was at the behest of IH and paid for by them to their specification, using people they selected and agreed too to the tune of $10 million. Rossi merely continued to use the Nuclear Engineer, Product Certification Specialist that IH were satisfied with, at any time in the last few years IH could have chosen another engineer, they did not; therefore they were happy with him to do the job. Kind Regards walker
