In the case of relativity; I think it has always been mostly the older
people that question it. When young, the tendency is to trust what is
being taught, and it takes a lot of research by which time you are old
to find out that what you were taught when young was all lies.
One of my videos is "How relativists lie" - and the techniques that
relativists use to lie is not something most young people are aware of
as being used on them; when young the tendency is to be naive and not be
looking for deliberate misdirections and deceptions from teachers.
------ Original Message ------
From: "H LV" <hveeder...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, 28 Nov, 20 At 16:33
Subject: Re: [Vo]:De Hilster on Einstein fallacy
Has anyone noticed that in the present day older folk are more likely
than younger folk to be the ones seriously questioning
the establishment? This is a reversal from how it was in Einstein's day
and for most of the 20th century.
Harry
On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM ROGER ANDERTON
<r.j.ander...@btinternet.com <mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> >
wrote:
fudging math is standard part of science/physics
Einstein's work not even properly translated from German into English,
and was probably done by his wife anyway; so all built on
misunderstandings as per latest talk at ANPA->
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPi5WC_IV0&feature=emb_logo
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPi5WC_IV0&feature=emb_logo>
How relativists lie explained at->
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnVIceUFXCE
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnVIceUFXCE>
all Jedi mind tricks; sins of omission, telephone game etc
telephone game-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHCkzl8Nykc
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHCkzl8Nykc>
Latest video will be about Einstein and aliens; Pavlov dog tricks etc
More time to do this now that on lockdown, normally wouldn't get further
than dealing with videos on unified field theory talks from Vigier
conference
https://www.unifiedfieldtheory.co.uk/
<https://www.unifiedfieldtheory.co.uk/>
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jürg Wyttenbach" <ju...@datamart.ch <mailto:ju...@datamart.ch> >
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Saturday, 28 Nov, 20 At 15:08
Subject: Re: [Vo]:De Hilster on Einstein fallacy
Classically the neutrino was invented as a missing link for the standard
model fudge factor math...
But neutrinos exist somehow as some interactions can be measured. But
all boils down to the question whether neutrinos have a rest mass or
not. If not then all the SM fudging is plain nonsense.
In real experiments the mass of the neutrino is going down each year.
Currently scored at less than 0.1 eV! Still no problem with SR as mass
can go to infinite if accelerated to light speed. But effects of 0.1eV
are in the error range of background/measurement processes and could
also be resonances.
The Higgs particle(s) is in fact a simple proton resonance that occurs
if the total flux does one more rotation. The original measured Higgs
mass can exactly be calculated by the basic SO(4) physics metric applied
to the proton!
Result: CERN now tries to fudge away the higher easy to derive
(4D-)proton mass by changing the measurement. So they get two goals in
one: No more two Higgs particles and a lowers mass that needs a bit more
work for the SO(4) derivation.
In my view reading standard model (SM) papers dealing with mass is a
waste of live time. But SM is no longer science its a religion!
J.W.
On 28.11.2020 15:16, Don86326 wrote:
What do the vocal folk here think of David de Hilster?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p-61TFsGCA
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p-61TFsGCA>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p-61TFsGCA
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p-61TFsGCA> >
And, do you think the neutrino is a fudge-factor? Being essentially
non-detectable they make a great fudge. The neutrino detection I read
about said that it was hardly proof --another reading in the noise floor
--while the article portended it was proof. Has there been more recent
'hard' proof of neutrinos?
OK, I'm a contrarian.
But, the article I read on the Nobel prize winning Higgs boson
detection also said it was a secondary inferred detection. But after
spending billions, somebody has to get a a prize. And I'm very, very
skeptical about super-duper big-science when career politics always
trumps science. Which is nothing new.
Michael Faraday was a commoner, a book binder, unable to possibly do
good science, because he did not have noble blood, per his boss. A
laughing gas habit killed Michael's boss, so I reckon Michael did get
the last laugh --as his brilliance was celebrated when his noble
control-freak was gone.
I think the media has a damaging effect on science. Take the
entangled photons from crystals that behave in parallel dynamics for a
few milliseconds... and the media hails it as 'Star Trek Teleportation
Discovered!' Gag me with a spoon, folks.
My bwain comes with a built-in crystal ball --and the ball says we're
all eventually screwed without more group-sense than our race has shown
ability to ensconce. But our world profits from division, anger, and
fear. Big huge profit.
Then there's NDAs that shelter corporate science --with devastating
law suites.
And there's gag-orders delivered by the Department of Defense
(American), who screen ALL patents for new science that us commoners
cannot so much as know without being a treasoner for the knowing. Some
classified science requires anyone aware of the knowledge to have three
Ph.D-s. Can anyone verify that? One gag-order was put on a blacktopping
machine that could pave through the desert with sand... dangerous
technology! Enemies have lots of sand. This was told me by the
personal friend of the guy that got gagged.
I new an autistic man that was a far removed genius at electronic
stuff, now pass away, that patented an energy storage device, and paid
more than ten thousand dollars for market representation. He paid a
military 'flag man' to market on military IP auctions in cycles of three
months. The DoD showed up, in a classic black van, and delivered a gag
order, stating "never speak of this. Tell anyone you ever told about it
that it is now a treasonous offense to discuss this knowledge."
Share classified military science after retirement and loose your
entire pension.
Oh God! Don't get me started on religious suppression of science as a
popular hate-sport by mis-informed people by a network profiting from
negative sensation --a modern media trend trend that has us all
programmed for instant negative thoughts to arrive before deeper
positive inner-ponderings. Hate generates low-stupid of gross naivete.
Make me really nauseous and talk to me about pseudo-science that
attempts to prove the Bible is the ultimate blueprint of quantum
physics. And those poor flat-earthers.
Are we a natural scientist if we...
Find joy of connecting the dots about mysteries of the universe.
Find a thrill of another comprehending ones personal inspiration, and
in reverse, especially.
Find hope in discovering knowledge as a hope to help humanity.
Thoughts for the holidays? Lamentations of a long career? Instant
negative reactions? Carefully pondered retrospection of changes a
'modern' media has done to a world once mediated by integrity? Etc?
--
Jürg Wyttenbach
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