a lot of that video is lies.


Brings in Lorentz- but from Lorentz theory there is no discard aether, it still keeps aether.

As for Michelson didn't accept Einstein relativity; well of course because MMX could still be understood through variable lightspeed theory, no need for constant lightspeed.

etc.

Just usual misrepresentations!


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Here is a 30 min video (made in the 1980s) about the Michelson Morely experiment with some historical context. Whereas as most of his contemporaries embraced the null result, Michelson always regarded the experiment as a failure.

Episode 41: The Michelson morley Experiment (made in the 1980s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip_jdcA8fcw <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip_jdcA8fcw>



His experimental apparatus was based on the assumption that motion through the aether can be instrumentally decomposed into a transverse component and a longitudinal component. However, I think this is a methodological error that results from conflating the motion of a flowing fluid with a wave propagating in a medium. In reality all parts of the apparatus moving with speed V through the aether will either send light forward with speed (C-V) or send light rearward with speed (C+V) in the frame of the apparatus. What was analysed as transverse motion was really just forward motion. (These additive and subtractive rules ensure that the speed of light wrt to the aether frame is always C.)


Harry



On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 4:18 PM ROGER ANDERTON <r.j.ander...@btinternet.com <mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> > wrote:


The problem with "aether" is that there are lots of different types of aether that can be proposed; so how is it to be defined; on the simplest level-> could take it as definition that-> a wave has a medium; and then -> if light is a wave then it should have a medium.


I explain the apparent confirmations of relativity theory-> "they" are lying; by such tactics as sin of omission.






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One of the panelists offers what could be called a weak criticism of relativity theory. He says all aether theories are irrelevant because they can't be proven or disproven, so it is unfair for relativists to assert anything about the existence or non-existence of an aether.

However, if the Michelson-Morely experiment had produced a fringe shift that would have confirmed the existence of aether. Michelson took the null result to mean there was something wrong with his understanding of the aether rather than as concept to be dismissed as irrelevant or obsolete. Any new aether will have to explain the null result and all other apparent confirmations of relativity theory.


Harry


On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM ROGER ANDERTON <r.j.ander...@btinternet.com <mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> > wrote:


fudging math is standard part of science/physics


Einstein's work not even properly translated from German into English, and was probably done by his wife anyway; so all built on misunderstandings as per latest talk at ANPA-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPi5WC_IV0&feature=emb_logo <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPi5WC_IV0&feature=emb_logo>





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