Hmm... the Michelson Morely results can be explained using a ballistic model of light, but we know that such a model is an inaccurate representation of light. It would just take a little imagination and some basic algebra to find suitable rules for the addition and subtraction of velocities for a wave model of light. However, while the measured velocity of light could decrease or increase in the moving frame, I still think the rules should ensure that the velocity of light of wrt to the aether does not change. harry
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:21 PM ROGER ANDERTON <r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> wrote: > a lot of that video is lies. > > > Brings in Lorentz- but from Lorentz theory there is no discard aether, it > still keeps aether. > > > As for Michelson didn't accept Einstein relativity; well of course because > MMX could still be understood through variable lightspeed theory, no need > for constant lightspeed. > > > etc. > > > Just usual misrepresentations! > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "H LV" <hveeder...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Monday, 30 Nov, 20 At 17:16 > Subject: Re: [Vo]:De Hilster on Einstein fallacy > > > Here is a 30 min video (made in the 1980s) about the Michelson Morely > experiment with some historical context. Whereas as most of his > contemporaries embraced the null result, Michelson always regarded the > experiment as a failure. > > Episode 41: The Michelson morley Experiment (made in the 1980s) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip_jdcA8fcw > > His experimental apparatus was based on the assumption that motion through > the aether can be instrumentally decomposed into a transverse component and > a longitudinal component. However, I think this is a methodological error > that results from conflating the motion of a flowing fluid with a wave > propagating in a medium. In reality all parts of the apparatus moving with > speed V through the aether will either send light forward with speed (C-V) > or send light rearward with speed (C+V) in the frame of the apparatus. What > was analysed as transverse motion was really just forward motion. (These > additive and subtractive rules ensure that the speed of light wrt to the > aether frame is always C.) > > Harry > > > On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 4:18 PM ROGER ANDERTON < > r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> The problem with "aether" is that there are lots of different types of >> aether that can be proposed; so how is it to be defined; on the simplest >> level-> could take it as definition that-> a wave has a medium; and then -> >> if light is a wave then it should have a medium. >> >> >> I explain the apparent confirmations of relativity theory-> "they" are >> lying; by such tactics as sin of omission. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "H LV" <hveeder...@gmail.com> >> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >> Sent: Saturday, 28 Nov, 20 At 21:10 >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:De Hilster on Einstein fallacy >> >> One of the panelists offers what could be called a weak criticism of >> relativity theory. >> He says all aether theories are irrelevant because they can't be proven >> or disproven, so it is unfair >> for relativists to assert anything about the existence or non-existence >> of an aether. >> >> However, if the Michelson-Morely experiment had produced a fringe shift >> that would have confirmed >> the existence of aether. Michelson took the null result to mean there was >> something wrong with his >> understanding of the aether rather than as concept to be dismissed as >> irrelevant or obsolete. >> Any new aether will have to explain the null result and all other >> apparent confirmations of relativity theory. >> >> Harry >> >> On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM ROGER ANDERTON < >> r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >>> fudging math is standard part of science/physics >>> >>> >>> Einstein's work not even properly translated from German into English, >>> and was probably done by his wife anyway; so all built on misunderstandings >>> as per latest talk at ANPA-> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPi5WC_IV0&feature=emb_logo >>> >>
