[Errata oops: the tubulin 'spiral' term used below is rather a helix on a cylinder, not a spiral on a pineapple. My bad.]
Hi Shawn, I'll try to explain a bit... the tubulin protein is an integral part of life. The DNA is pulled apart by tubulin nanotubes into halves for cell division. An amoeba, explains Dr. Hameroff (anaesthesiologist --a consciousness doctor) can be sucked up into a syringe, and it will eventually escape. But if repeated, a one-celled amoeba somehow remembers how it escaped, and gets out faster. Each suck-up and escape is quicker. Splain dat, Lucy. No brain there. OK, so, tubulin forms in cylinders, and tubulinA and tubulinB are interspersed in the cylinder such that the A & B parts form the Fibonacci pineapple spirals down the length of the tubublin nanotube. The spiral pattern is also branching off with protein (?) junctions to other nanotubes. These nanotubes and junctions number in the billions per every cell. Lots of images and YouTube videos, and papers, and attempted rebuttals are available on Google. The search term is the name of the Theory --Orchestrated Objective Reduction, Orch OR Theory. And image search, too. Why does resonance decay in a nanotube into the spiral pattern? Great question. Dunno. Uneducatedly, I'd venture that the resonance setup time is a few cycles to build, and the impedance of the tubulinA and B molecules are slower to 'tap into' the resonant envelope. An impedance mis-match. But yet, is not some non-linearity needed in first principle to oscillate on a steady potential? Anyone? BTW, the nanotube resonance has been tested independently from Hameroff with nanoprobes on a nanotube driven with pulses... and they have a resonant peak at 40 Hz... which is the highest 'clock rate' of human brains. That is the rate of the quantum-relaxation, charge/decay/repeat. There are many many many quantum oscillations per each relaxation --which wave collapse is called 'objective reduction' by Penrose and Hameroff, i.e., a quantum wave collapse into a programmed tubulin 'organ pipe, per se, --and the 'organ pipe' is more a flute, with tuning-holes in the flute representing the branching protein that taps into the pipe. Sean, I love your 'wave articulation matrix' image and concept... and want to do a mind merge with you (but the group-mind-mirror isn't yet ready <--that is attempted humor, ish). What other structures? Well... I gots a favorite. It's a torus knot. A three-phase array of knots on the same torus form. I want to test this and learn what it has to disclose. I'm not sure which direction my thoughts should trail without more tests. Here is a set of parameters for a 'golden orthogonal torus knot'... Major radius: Phi^(2) Minor radius: Phi^(2) - Phi^(-2) These parameters set the hole radius at the square root of two, curiously enough. This is the same torus profile algebraically, but scaled up to higher Phi powers... Maj: Phi^(4) Min: Phi^(4) - Phi^(0) So that would notate as Maj: Phi^(n) Min: Phi^(n) - Phi^(n-4) Now! When the torus major and minor radii above are used to specify a torus knot profile, then if a knot ratio is selected as a Fibonacci pair an orthogonal angle will be created between the helical knot windings across the minor radius (viewed through the plane of the torus). Almost orthogonal, that is. The Fibonacci sequence adjacent pair of 13:8 as a torus knot ratio will produce 0.007 normalized error. 13/8 = 1.6250 Phi = 1.61803... The closer the normalized error is to Phi, the closer the knot loops are to orthogonal from outer to inner windings through the hole. Pretty cool. Integer resonance with a very irrational set of parameters --except for the Fibonacci integers. The Fibonacci Phi approximation error can be compensated in a real knot by a slight elliptical stretch on the minor radius to stretch the torus on the axis (0.007 part of scale). [Scale morphing should make standing waves on the torus walk forward or backward, I reckon.] So then, as the opposing conductors are orthogonal at the equator, and skew from that toward the poles, then at resonance, there will be an inductive dead-zone at the equator of the torus knot array (resistive contribution at the equator due to orthogonality). This equatorial zone will not contribute to the harmonic envelope when pushed to resonance. So then then, I would anticipate a resonance of this orthogonal knot would tend to form standing charge regions that are bipolar, above and below the equator. <-- I think it would take a lot of Watts to push a bipolar resonant voltage pattern. (With more caveats... the 2013 disclosure claimed 30,000 watts of random magnetic pulses at around 30 kilohertz to push an ionized layer of air out at eight feet diameter --a glowing sphere enveloped it). Lots of caveats apply. Opinions? Experience? How would one create a macro-tubular Fibonacci spiral resonator that was also a relaxation oscillator? Seems to me that voltage fields switched in segments could create the macro patterns of voltage in phase-time, but would that simulate quantum effects? Name this gedankindevice a super-giant macro boson. Could you get quantum computations? Seems worth the look see. What first principles could reduce to a simpler effect for experiment? I'm thinking like... quantum effects at resonance may be available... treating the resonant field as a quantum moment, perhaps and with special treatment. Think artificial quantum dot. But me no gots principled thoughts down that far (yet). Transcranial magnetic stimulation goes through flesh and brain, where voltage effects on the brain are routed as currents around the brain without needles putting current right in context with a neuron cluster. Hameroff states that sonic, electrical, or magnetic pulses at the proper frequency will engage the tubulin moment. <-- Does not that indicate the effect leverages upon the Coulombic field having its mass-center perturbed by whatever external force? Sono-Coulomb-tronics does not exist, yet. But Frank Znidarsic paved the way with Podkletnov's data interpretation. Also, Hameroff discovered that eight megaHertz of ultrasonic activation of the nanotubules causes nanotubes to auto-assemble and repair <--- literally repairing age-damage <-- with a 40 minute buzz of well being (per Hameroff who did it). Eight megaHz sonic energy treats depression. Sonogram equipment for imaging feti in the womb is I think what Hameroff used for his buzz by placing the ultrasonics on his head. Mad Amateur Science (MAS) *Troll mode on:* I am mounting a hackaday.io project to invite assistance with the build details. The old brain does not want to struggle with each and every learning curve of tech builds --where are the interns when needed? E.g., surface mounting ultra-transistors directly on copper resonators, developing a fast data-log for arithmetic analysis with some Russian algorithms could use some techy help, maybe a fund-raiser for hired science should something interesting occur. Shaun, the tech I'm developing would --if developed with some proper sensor matrix on your 'wave articulation matrix' would... Show *all* patterns as exist in the active phase-space of the sensorized topology. (At a resolution of the sensor matrix, which may be sparce and extrapolated for waveform of rotation, mirrored signs, and the like. And I'm talking a serious lab development here... not a just hacked out (virgin pristine IP wild frontier). Oh hey! If open source, it is shared. The analysis scheme is by spy-tech... so, the sword gets beaten into a plow point to share among community. It is an actual plowshare project. Marketing lingo. The Russian tech was wrapped by a team of Ph.D-s plus a lowly coder (me), and was given 800 million dollars twice to implement the affordances in that Utah spy center. The hunt for terrorists by looking at --Oh, maybe that's classified. The science is posted by the P. S. Prueitt, Ph.D, who got it from a defected Russia and formalized it into DARPA, online at ontologystream.com, and I've clear copyright to the algorithmic proofs I wrote for a DARPA funding competition confab. The DARPA work isn't posted, just the computer science of the Russian Quasi Axiomatic Theory (co-occurrence categoric comparison of time-line data streams for big data, pretty simple stuff, just odd like category theory). What's so spiffy keen about the QAT is that in principle, co-occurrence of mental categorization is the quantum-unit of perception. 'wave articulation matrix' is perceivable visually as iconery algorithmically. Waxing sappy: it is as if my career path tooled-me-up for parsing the perceptive envelope of mind --cause all the component know-how was waiting in my bucket list. Golly gee. Any MAS support is highly appreciated (but I'm really just a technologist hunting for data and wistful for a science wrapper on the work). Troll mode OFF and out. -don On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:30 PM Sean Logan <paco66...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can you elaborate on how and why a "resonance decays through the Fibonacci > spirals of a protein nanotubel" ? Would other structures, whose geometry > is related to the Fibonacci sequence, or to a Golden Spiral, also function > like this? Would this shape, for example? > > spaz.org/~magi > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:37 AM Don Mitchell <don86...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello vortex-l, >> >> >> *Premise:* Penrose-Hameroff *Orch OR Theory *proposed protein nanotube *is >> proper*ly identified as the interface of spirit with brain. >> >> By Penrose logic, the brain does not generate mind, but is a transceiver >> interface composed of protein nanotubes that burst into quantum resonance >> about 40 times a second. You and me are minds in the aether activating >> quantum relaxation oscillators to be you and me, per Sir Penrose and Dr. >> Hameroff. >> >> In the PH model, quantum resonance decays through the Fibonacci spirals >> of a protein nanotube to ultimaltely afford 'when' a neuron fires. >> >> The electrons of the nanotubes resonate with energy within the quantum >> noise-floor (my term) between the atoms of the nanotubes. >> >> Is this a proper grammatical construct for the *Orch OR Theory*? >> >> >> Druthers? >> >> Assume the signal propagation of mind is in the aether plenum and is >> superluminal and scalar (all directions isotropically). >> >> By that assumption, 'mind' in the aetheric plenum is a zero-dimensional >> oscillation over time, I think. >> >> >> Is 'zero-dimensional' the proper notation for a signal that varied in >> quality nearly** everywhere at once? >> >> >> **nearly: superluminal is not infinite. >> >> >> Let's huddle. >> >> If every neuron is synchopated with the aether, then every neuron is >> simultaneously aware of the same signal of 0-D mind in the aether. >> >> If mind is superluminal, then every neuron active in our pulse-field of >> brain-mind is tuned as a whole to one signal, our mind in the aether. >> >> Thoughts, please? >> >> Might there be some hint of simultaneity that may be sensorized within >> our gray matter? >> >> >> -don >> >
