Re: [Vo]:superluminal mind

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

Since more than 20 years for me its clear that the universe has a kind 
of morphological memory. I personally had experience with telepathy of 
various forms but it can be very mind troubling if you dig in to deep.

Now with the universal model (SO(4) physics) for dense matter physics it 
is clearly understandable that the current accepted "standard model" 
just scratches the surface of the reality.

The basic organization form of matter is the magnetic resonance. This is 
how SO(4) physics can give the exact structure of particles - hence the 
matter we live in/off. In principle all well structured magnetic flux 
can go into resonance with the same flux or a higher/lower harmonic of 
it. The higher/more complex/stable the structure is the narrower the 
energies are defined.

Now the key point: Magnetic resonance forms out over the so called phase 
space. The phase space communication is not limited by the speed of 
light. Only if two distant/synchronized objects start to exchange energy 
the classic limits come into play. Thus two objects can synchronize 
(their structure)- based on locale energy exchange for forming the 
structure - over any distance. This means a structure million light 
years away can be rebuilt on earth given a media that is sensitive enough.

The classic error about the definition of information (= energy 
discrimination) was made around 1950 as a follow up from signal 
processing. But in reality information does not need any energy as a 
carrier. This fact is used in today's quantum computers.

A more profane experiment has been made by Luc Montagnier (Nobel prize 
for AIDS virus) with the "teleportation" of DNA. In fact he shows that a 
morphological memory for structures (DNA) does exist in water, that can 
be encoded in Sound and then the replay of sound induces the memory 
again what forces the DNA structure to be rebuilt with about 98% precision.

It looks like bacteria  are able to use this effect for e.g. the 
transportation of new genetic information needed e.g. for antibiotic 
resistance. There are also some fancy experiments about this.

Here the Luc Montagnier video of a real science story ! (With added 
youtube commercial you can skip!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8VyUsVOic0&feature=emb_logo

J.W.


On 19.12.2020 01:05, Frank Cook wrote:


Sent from my iPad
Dear done,

Regarding your wording and words about the subluminal mind in the 
uniformity in all directions of the communication, I would note that 
it sounds like you’re talking about in an entangled system from the in 
terms of quantum mechanics language.

Leave nova program on PBS Wednesday had an item on entanglement and 
concluded that there might be entanglement over large distances. They 
described a test that was being conducted by some researchers using 
telescopes on the Canary Islands and filters generated add random 
random by signals from too distant quasars, separated by many many 
light years.

The reason for the quasars signals was to ensure there could be no 
nominal connection between the signals coming in in which were random 
to designate the given filter at a given time in two separate 
experimental devices using a source that was a stance of Lee entangled 
with the devices in there outputs.

 The description of the extensive connections between the the two 
signals that were being monitored and filtered by separate telescopes 
was not at all explained but may be available from the researchers of 
that 2020 experiment.

The description of the protein Nana tubes and potential connection in 
a larger sense in an entangled universe is quite interesting and 
suggests the same entanglement that exists in smaller material 
systems, for example, nano particles commonly used currently by LENR 
researchers.
I have long concluded that the transfer of energy between parts of the 
nano system that is in tangled happens from the nuclei in the system 
to the atomic it electrons in the same entangled system. And they 
result is of the deadly a phase change of kinetic energy and spin 
energy, the two may be this
Same, and then effect which allows the spin energy in the atomic 
structure of the nano particle to then give up phonic thermal energy 
to surrounding particles in the rest of the environment.
 It is my conjecture that this entangle system has an instantaneous 
phase change once the couple in conditions were residences in this 
case are in tune with each other to allow spin to be conserved as well 
as angular momentum and energy. The spin course is related to the 
angular mobile number. The coupling in the entangled system however is 
in from my perspective magnetic coupling , Accomplished by the 
magnetic field which exists within the entangled nano particle. One of 
the parameters that can be engineered and modified is the magnetic 
field that exists within the nail particle, and it is this magnetic 
field that allows residences to occur within the Nano particle and to 
affect a phase change in that nano particle.

A big conjecture here is that the magnetic field is the coupling agent 
that exists in allows information transfer among the special locations 
of the various parts of the nano particle and includes coupling with 
the local particles that have a magnetic moment and does the mechanism 
for a coupling with the rest of the system.

And analogous system of coupling may occur in peoples minds via 
protein nanotubes that are basically and in tangled system.

However, this conjecture seems to rule out any coupling at a large 
scale where adequate magnetic fields do not exist to land the coupling 
agent field necessary to allow phase changes or transfer of 
information from one side of the couple nano particle to the other 
side of the political or one particle in the nano particle to another 
primary particle in by this
I mean electrons and or nucleons positron see if they exist in that 
system and neutrinos by the way if they exist in the system as primary 
particles.

Signing off, but cook
On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:44 AM, Don Mitchell <don86...@gmail.com> wrote:


[Errata oops: the tubulin 'spiral' term used below is rather a helix 
on a cylinder, not a spiral on a pineapple.  My bad.]


Hi Shawn,

I'll try to explain a bit... the tubulin protein is an integral part 
of life.  The DNA is pulled apart by tubulin nanotubes into halves 
for cell division.

An amoeba, explains Dr. Hameroff (anaesthesiologist --a consciousness 
doctor) can be sucked up into a syringe, and it will eventually 
escape.  But if repeated, a one-celled amoeba somehow remembers how 
it escaped, and gets out faster.  Each suck-up and escape is 
quicker.  Splain dat, Lucy.  No brain there.

OK, so, tubulin forms in cylinders, and tubulinA and tubulinB are 
interspersed in the cylinder such that the A & B parts form the 
Fibonacci pineapple spirals down the length of the tubublin nanotube.

The spiral pattern is also branching off with protein (?) junctions 
to other nanotubes.  These nanotubes and junctions number in the 
billions per every cell.

Lots of images and YouTube videos, and papers, and attempted 
rebuttals are available on Google.

The search term is the name of the Theory --Orchestrated Objective 
Reduction,  Orch OR Theory.   And image search, too.

Why does resonance decay in a nanotube into the spiral pattern?  
Great question. Dunno.  Uneducatedly, I'd venture that the resonance 
setup time is a few cycles to build, and the impedance of the 
tubulinA and B molecules are slower to 'tap into' the resonant 
envelope.  An impedance mis-match. But yet, is not some non-linearity 
needed in first principle to oscillate on a steady potential?

Anyone?

    BTW, the nanotube resonance has been tested independently from
    Hameroff with nanoprobes on a nanotube driven with pulses... and
    they have a resonant peak at 40 Hz... which is the highest 'clock
    rate' of human brains.  That is the rate of the
    quantum-relaxation, charge/decay/repeat.  There are many many
    many quantum oscillations per each relaxation --which wave
    collapse is called 'objective reduction' by Penrose and
    Hameroff, i.e., a quantum wave collapse into a programmed tubulin
    'organ pipe, per se, --and the 'organ pipe' is more a flute, with
    tuning-holes in the flute representing the branching protein that
    taps into the pipe.



Sean, I love your 'wave articulation matrix' image and concept... and 
want to do a mind merge with you (but the group-mind-mirror isn't yet 
ready <--that is attempted humor, ish).

What other structures? Well... I gots a favorite.  It's a torus 
knot.  A three-phase array of knots on the same torus form.  I want 
to test this and learn what it has to disclose.  I'm not sure which 
direction my thoughts should trail without more tests.

Here is a set of parameters for a 'golden orthogonal torus knot'...
Major radius: Phi^(2)
Minor radius: Phi^(2) - Phi^(-2)

These parameters set the hole radius at the square root of two, 
curiously enough.

This is the same torus profile algebraically, but scaled up to higher 
Phi powers...
Maj: Phi^(4)
Min: Phi^(4) - Phi^(0)

So that would notate as
Maj: Phi^(n)
Min: Phi^(n) - Phi^(n-4)

Now!  When the torus major and minor radii above are used to specify 
a torus knot profile, then if a knot ratio is selected as a Fibonacci 
pair an orthogonal angle will be created between the helical knot 
windings across the minor radius (viewed through the plane of the torus).

Almost orthogonal, that is.  The Fibonacci sequence adjacent pair of 
13:8 as a torus knot ratio will produce 0.007 normalized error.

13/8 = 1.6250
Phi = 1.61803...

The closer the normalized error is to Phi, the closer the knot loops 
are to orthogonal from outer to inner windings through the hole.

Pretty cool. Integer resonance with a very irrational set of 
parameters --except for the Fibonacci integers.

The Fibonacci Phi approximation error can be compensated in a real 
knot by a slight elliptical stretch on the minor radius to stretch 
the torus on the axis (0.007 part of scale). [Scale morphing should 
make standing waves on the torus walk forward or backward, I reckon.]

So then, as the opposing conductors are orthogonal at the equator, 
and skew from that toward the poles, then at resonance, there will be 
an inductive dead-zone at the equator of the torus knot array 
(resistive contribution at the equator due to orthogonality).  This 
equatorial zone will not contribute to the harmonic envelope when 
pushed to resonance.

So then then, I would anticipate a resonance of this orthogonal knot 
would tend to form standing charge regions that are bipolar, above 
and below the equator. <-- I think it would take a lot of Watts to 
push a bipolar resonant voltage pattern.  (With more caveats... the 
2013 disclosure claimed 30,000 watts of random magnetic pulses at 
around 30 kilohertz to push an ionized layer of air out at eight feet 
diameter --a glowing sphere enveloped it).  Lots of caveats apply.

Opinions? Experience?

How would one create a macro-tubular Fibonacci spiral resonator that 
was also a relaxation oscillator?

Seems to me that voltage fields switched in segments could create the 
macro patterns of voltage in phase-time, but would that simulate 
quantum effects? Name this gedankindevice a super-giant macro boson.  
Could you get quantum computations?  Seems worth the look see.  What 
first principles could reduce to a simpler effect for experiment?  
I'm thinking like... quantum effects at resonance may be available... 
treating the resonant field as a quantum moment, perhaps and with 
special treatment.  Think artificial quantum dot. But me no gots 
principled thoughts down that far (yet).

Transcranial magnetic stimulation goes through flesh and brain, where 
voltage effects on the brain are routed as currents around the brain 
without needles putting current right in context with a neuron cluster.

Hameroff states that sonic, electrical, or magnetic pulses at the 
proper frequency will engage the tubulin moment.  <-- Does not that 
indicate the effect leverages upon the Coulombic field having its 
mass-center perturbed by whatever external force? 
Sono-Coulomb-tronics does not exist, yet.  But Frank Znidarsic paved 
the way with Podkletnov's data interpretation.

Also, Hameroff discovered that eight megaHertz of ultrasonic 
activation of the nanotubules causes nanotubes to auto-assemble and 
repair <--- literally repairing age-damage <-- with a 40 minute buzz 
of well being (per Hameroff who did it).  Eight megaHz sonic energy 
treats depression.  Sonogram equipment for imaging feti in the womb 
is I think what Hameroff used for his buzz by placing the ultrasonics 
on his head.

Mad Amateur Science (MAS)

*Troll mode on:* I am mounting a hackaday.io <http://hackaday.io> 
project to invite assistance with the build details.  The old brain 
does not want to struggle with each and every learning curve of tech 
builds --where are the interns when needed? E.g., surface mounting 
ultra-transistors directly on copper resonators, developing a fast 
data-log for arithmetic analysis with some Russian algorithms could 
use some techy help, maybe a fund-raiser for hired science should 
something interesting occur.

Shaun, the tech I'm developing would --if developed with some proper 
sensor matrix on your 'wave articulation matrix'

would...

Show /all/ patterns as exist in the active phase-space of the 
sensorized topology. (At a resolution of the sensor matrix, which may 
be sparce and extrapolated for waveform of rotation, mirrored signs, 
and the like.  And I'm talking a serious lab development here... not 
a just hacked out (virgin pristine IP wild frontier).  Oh hey!  If 
open source, it is shared.  The analysis scheme is by spy-tech... so, 
the sword gets beaten into a plow point to share among community.  It 
is an actual plowshare project.  Marketing lingo.

The Russian tech was wrapped by a team of Ph.D-s plus a lowly coder 
(me), and was given 800 million dollars twice to implement the 
affordances in that Utah spy center.  The hunt for terrorists by 
looking at --Oh, maybe that's classified.  The science is posted by 
the P. S. Prueitt, Ph.D, who got it from a defected Russia and 
formalized it into DARPA, online at ontologystream.com 
<http://ontologystream.com>, and I've clear copyright to the 
algorithmic proofs I wrote for a DARPA funding competition confab.  
The DARPA work isn't posted, just the computer science of the Russian 
Quasi Axiomatic Theory (co-occurrence categoric comparison of 
time-line data streams for big data, pretty simple stuff, just odd 
like category theory).

What's so spiffy keen about the QAT is that in principle, 
co-occurrence of mental categorization is the quantum-unit of 
perception.  'wave articulation matrix' is perceivable visually as 
iconery algorithmically.  Waxing sappy: it is as if my career path 
tooled-me-up for parsing the perceptive envelope of mind --cause all 
the component know-how was waiting in my bucket list.  Golly gee.

Any MAS support is highly appreciated (but I'm really just a 
technologist hunting for data and wistful for a science wrapper on 
the work).

Troll mode OFF and out.

-don

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:30 PM Sean Logan <paco66...@gmail.com 
<mailto:paco66...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Can you elaborate on how and why a "resonance decays through the
    Fibonacci spirals of a protein nanotubel" ?  Would other
    structures, whose geometry is related to the Fibonacci sequence,
    or to a Golden Spiral, also function like this?  Would this
    shape, for example?

    spaz.org/~magi <http://spaz.org/~magi>



    On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:37 AM Don Mitchell <don86...@gmail.com
    <mailto:don86...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Hello vortex-l,


        *Premise:* Penrose-Hameroff /Orch OR Theory /proposed protein
        nanotube *is proper*ly identified as the interface of spirit
        with brain.

        By Penrose logic, the brain does not generate mind, but is a
        transceiver interface composed of protein nanotubes that
        burst into quantum resonance about 40 times a second.  You
        and me are minds in the aether activating quantum relaxation
        oscillators to be you and me, per Sir Penrose and Dr. Hameroff.

        In the PH model, quantum resonance decays through the
        Fibonacci spirals of a protein nanotube to ultimaltely afford
        'when' a neuron fires.

        The electrons of the nanotubes resonate with energy within
        the quantum noise-floor (my term) between the atoms of the
        nanotubes.

            Is this a proper grammatical construct for the /Orch OR
            Theory/?


        Druthers?

        Assume the signal propagation of mind is in the aether plenum
        and is superluminal and scalar (all directions isotropically).

        By that assumption, 'mind' in the aetheric plenum is a
        zero-dimensional oscillation over time, I think.


            Is 'zero-dimensional' the proper notation for a signal
            that varied in quality nearly** everywhere at once?


            **nearly: superluminal is not infinite.


        Let's huddle.

        If every neuron is synchopated with the aether, then every
        neuron is simultaneously aware of the same signal of 0-D mind
        in the aether.

        If mind is superluminal, then every neuron active in our
        pulse-field of brain-mind is tuned as a whole to one signal,
        our mind in the aether.

        Thoughts, please?

        Might there be some hint of simultaneity that may be
        sensorized within our gray matter?


        -don

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