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Dear done,

Regarding your wording and words about the subluminal mind in the uniformity in 
all directions of the communication, I would note that it sounds like you’re 
talking about in an entangled system from the in terms of quantum mechanics 
language.

Leave nova program on PBS Wednesday had an item on entanglement and concluded 
that there might be entanglement over large distances. They described a test 
that was being conducted by some researchers using telescopes on the Canary 
Islands and filters generated add random random by signals from too distant 
quasars, separated by many many light years.

The reason for the quasars signals was to ensure there could be no nominal 
connection between the signals coming in in which were random to designate the 
given filter at a given time in two separate experimental devices using a 
source that was a stance of Lee entangled with the devices in there outputs.

 The description of the extensive connections between the the two signals that 
were being monitored and filtered by separate telescopes was not at all 
explained but may be available from the researchers of that 2020 experiment.

The description of the protein Nana tubes and potential connection in a larger 
sense in an entangled universe is quite interesting and suggests the same 
entanglement that exists in smaller material systems, for example, nano 
particles commonly used currently by LENR researchers.
I have long concluded that the transfer of energy between parts of the nano 
system that is in tangled happens from the nuclei in the system to the atomic 
it electrons in the same entangled system. And they result is of the deadly a 
phase change of kinetic energy and spin energy, the two may be this
Same, and then effect which allows the spin energy in the atomic structure of 
the nano particle to then give up phonic thermal energy to surrounding 
particles in the rest of the environment.
 It is my conjecture that this entangle system has an instantaneous phase 
change once the couple in conditions were residences in this case are in tune 
with each other to allow spin to be conserved as well as angular momentum and 
energy. The spin course is related to the angular mobile number. The coupling 
in the entangled system however is in from my perspective magnetic coupling , 
Accomplished by the magnetic field which exists within the entangled nano 
particle. One of the parameters that can be engineered and modified is the 
magnetic field that exists within the nail particle, and it is this magnetic 
field that allows residences to occur within the Nano particle and to affect a 
phase change in that nano particle.

A big conjecture here is that the magnetic field is the coupling agent that 
exists in allows information transfer among the special locations of the 
various parts of the nano particle and includes coupling with the local 
particles that have a magnetic moment and does the mechanism for a coupling 
with the rest of the system.

And analogous system of coupling may occur in peoples minds via protein 
nanotubes that are basically and in tangled system.

However, this conjecture seems to rule out any coupling at a large scale where 
adequate magnetic fields do not exist to land the coupling agent field 
necessary to allow phase changes or transfer of information from one side of 
the couple nano particle to the other side of the political or one particle in 
the nano particle to another primary particle in by this
I mean electrons and or nucleons positron see if they exist in that system and 
neutrinos by the way if they exist in the system as primary particles.

Signing off, but cook
> On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:44 AM, Don Mitchell <don86...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> [Errata oops: the tubulin 'spiral' term used below is rather a helix on a 
> cylinder, not a spiral on a pineapple.  My bad.]
> 
> 
> Hi Shawn, 
> 
> I'll try to explain a bit... the tubulin protein is an integral part of life. 
>  The DNA is pulled apart by tubulin nanotubes into halves for cell division.
> 
> An amoeba, explains Dr. Hameroff (anaesthesiologist --a consciousness doctor) 
> can be sucked up into a syringe, and it will eventually escape.  But if 
> repeated, a one-celled amoeba somehow remembers how it escaped, and gets out 
> faster.  Each suck-up and escape is quicker.  Splain dat, Lucy.  No brain 
> there.
> 
> OK, so, tubulin forms in cylinders, and tubulinA and tubulinB are 
> interspersed in the cylinder such that the A & B parts form the Fibonacci 
> pineapple spirals down the length of the tubublin nanotube.
> 
> The spiral pattern is also branching off with protein (?) junctions to other 
> nanotubes.  These nanotubes and junctions number in the billions per every 
> cell.
> 
> Lots of images and YouTube videos, and papers, and attempted rebuttals are 
> available on Google.  
> 
> The search term is the name of the Theory --Orchestrated Objective Reduction, 
>  Orch OR Theory.   And image search, too.
> 
> Why does resonance decay in a nanotube into the spiral pattern?  Great 
> question.  Dunno.  Uneducatedly, I'd venture that the resonance setup time is 
> a few cycles to build, and the impedance of the tubulinA and B molecules are 
> slower to 'tap into' the resonant envelope.  An impedance mis-match.  But 
> yet, is not some non-linearity needed in first principle to oscillate on a 
> steady potential?
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> BTW, the nanotube resonance has been tested independently from Hameroff with 
> nanoprobes on a nanotube driven with pulses... and they have a resonant peak 
> at 40 Hz... which is the highest 'clock rate' of human brains.  That is the 
> rate of the quantum-relaxation, charge/decay/repeat.  There are many many 
> many quantum oscillations per each relaxation --which wave collapse is called 
> 'objective reduction' by Penrose and Hameroff, i.e., a quantum wave collapse 
> into a programmed tubulin 'organ pipe, per se, --and the 'organ pipe' is more 
> a flute, with tuning-holes in the flute representing the branching protein 
> that taps into the pipe.
> 
> 
> Sean, I love your 'wave articulation matrix' image and concept... and want to 
> do a mind merge with you (but the group-mind-mirror isn't yet ready <--that 
> is attempted humor, ish).
> 
> What other structures? Well... I gots a favorite.  It's a torus knot.  A 
> three-phase array of knots on the same torus form.  I want to test this and 
> learn what it has to disclose.  I'm not sure which direction my thoughts 
> should trail without more tests.  
> 
> Here is a set of parameters for a 'golden orthogonal torus knot'...
> Major radius: Phi^(2)
> Minor radius: Phi^(2) - Phi^(-2)
> 
> These parameters set the hole radius at the square root of two, curiously 
> enough. 
> 
> This is the same torus profile algebraically, but scaled up to higher Phi 
> powers...
> Maj: Phi^(4)
> Min: Phi^(4) - Phi^(0)
> 
> So that would notate as
> Maj: Phi^(n)
> Min: Phi^(n) - Phi^(n-4)
> 
> Now!  When the torus major and minor radii above are used to specify a torus 
> knot profile, then if a knot ratio is selected as a Fibonacci pair an 
> orthogonal angle will be created between the helical knot windings across the 
> minor radius (viewed through the plane of the torus).
> 
> Almost orthogonal, that is.  The Fibonacci sequence adjacent pair of 13:8 as 
> a torus knot ratio will produce 0.007 normalized error.  
> 
> 13/8 = 1.6250
> Phi = 1.61803...
> 
> The closer the normalized error is to Phi, the closer the knot loops are to 
> orthogonal from outer to inner windings through the hole.
> 
> Pretty cool.  Integer resonance with a very irrational set of parameters 
> --except for the Fibonacci integers.  
> 
> The Fibonacci Phi approximation error can be compensated in a real knot by a 
> slight elliptical stretch on the minor radius to stretch the torus on the 
> axis (0.007 part of scale). [Scale morphing should make standing waves on the 
> torus walk forward or backward, I reckon.]
> 
> So then, as the opposing conductors are orthogonal at the equator, and skew 
> from that toward the poles, then at resonance, there will be an inductive 
> dead-zone at the equator of the torus knot array (resistive contribution at 
> the equator due to orthogonality).  This equatorial zone will not contribute 
> to the harmonic envelope when pushed to resonance.
> 
> So then then, I would anticipate a resonance of this orthogonal knot would 
> tend to form standing charge regions that are bipolar, above and below the 
> equator. <-- I think it would take a lot of Watts to push a bipolar resonant 
> voltage pattern.  (With more caveats... the 2013 disclosure claimed 30,000 
> watts of random magnetic pulses at around 30 kilohertz to push an ionized 
> layer of air out at eight feet diameter --a glowing sphere enveloped it).  
> Lots of caveats apply.
> 
> Opinions?  Experience?
> 
> How would one create a macro-tubular Fibonacci spiral resonator that was also 
> a relaxation oscillator?
> 
> Seems to me that voltage fields switched in segments could create the macro 
> patterns of voltage in phase-time, but would that simulate quantum effects?  
> Name this gedankindevice a super-giant macro boson.  Could you get quantum 
> computations?  Seems worth the look see.  What first principles could reduce 
> to a simpler effect for experiment?  I'm thinking like... quantum effects at 
> resonance may be available... treating the resonant field as a quantum 
> moment, perhaps and with special treatment.  Think artificial quantum dot. 
> But me no gots principled thoughts down that far (yet).
> 
> Transcranial magnetic stimulation goes through flesh and brain, where voltage 
> effects on the brain are routed as currents around the brain without needles 
> putting current right in context with a neuron cluster.  
> 
> Hameroff states that sonic, electrical, or magnetic pulses at the proper 
> frequency will engage the tubulin moment.  <-- Does not that indicate the 
> effect leverages upon the Coulombic field having its mass-center perturbed by 
> whatever external force? Sono-Coulomb-tronics does not exist, yet.  But Frank 
> Znidarsic paved the way with Podkletnov's data interpretation.
> 
> Also, Hameroff discovered that eight megaHertz of ultrasonic activation of 
> the nanotubules causes nanotubes to auto-assemble and repair <--- literally 
> repairing age-damage <-- with a 40 minute buzz of well being (per Hameroff 
> who did it).  Eight megaHz sonic energy treats depression.  Sonogram 
> equipment for imaging feti in the womb is I think what Hameroff used for his 
> buzz by placing the ultrasonics on his head.
> 
> Mad Amateur Science (MAS)
> 
> Troll mode on: I am mounting a hackaday.io project to invite assistance with 
> the build details.  The old brain does not want to struggle with each and 
> every learning curve of tech builds --where are the interns when needed?  
> E.g., surface mounting ultra-transistors directly on copper resonators, 
> developing a fast data-log for arithmetic analysis with some Russian 
> algorithms could use some techy help, maybe a fund-raiser for hired science 
> should something interesting occur.
> 
> Shaun, the tech I'm developing would --if developed with some proper sensor 
> matrix on your 'wave articulation matrix'
> 
> would...
> 
> Show all patterns as exist in the active phase-space of the sensorized 
> topology. (At a resolution of the sensor matrix, which may be sparce and 
> extrapolated for waveform of rotation, mirrored signs, and the like.  And I'm 
> talking a serious lab development here... not a just hacked out (virgin 
> pristine IP wild frontier).  Oh hey!  If open source, it is shared.  The 
> analysis scheme is by spy-tech... so, the sword gets beaten into a plow point 
> to share among community.  It is an actual plowshare project.  Marketing 
> lingo.
> 
> The Russian tech was wrapped by a team of Ph.D-s plus a lowly coder (me), and 
> was given 800 million dollars twice to implement the affordances in that Utah 
> spy center.  The hunt for terrorists by looking at --Oh, maybe that's 
> classified.  The science is posted by the P. S. Prueitt, Ph.D, who got it 
> from a defected Russia and formalized it into DARPA, online at 
> ontologystream.com, and I've clear copyright to the algorithmic proofs I 
> wrote for a DARPA funding competition confab.  The DARPA work isn't posted, 
> just the computer science of the Russian Quasi Axiomatic Theory 
> (co-occurrence categoric comparison of time-line data streams for big data, 
> pretty simple stuff, just odd like category theory).
> 
> What's so spiffy keen about the QAT is that in principle, co-occurrence of 
> mental categorization is the quantum-unit of perception.  'wave articulation 
> matrix' is perceivable visually as iconery algorithmically.  Waxing sappy: it 
> is as if my career path tooled-me-up for parsing the perceptive envelope of 
> mind --cause all the component know-how was waiting in my bucket list.  Golly 
> gee.  
> 
> Any MAS support is highly appreciated (but I'm really just a technologist 
> hunting for data and wistful for a science wrapper on the work).
> 
> Troll mode OFF and out.
> 
> -don
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:30 PM Sean Logan <paco66...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can you elaborate on how and why a "resonance decays through the Fibonacci 
>> spirals of a protein nanotubel" ?  Would other structures, whose geometry is 
>> related to the Fibonacci sequence, or to a Golden Spiral, also function like 
>> this?  Would this shape, for example?
>> 
>> spaz.org/~magi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:37 AM Don Mitchell <don86...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello vortex-l,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Premise: Penrose-Hameroff Orch OR Theory proposed protein nanotube is 
>>> properly identified as the interface of spirit with brain.
>>> 
>>> By Penrose logic, the brain does not generate mind, but is a transceiver 
>>> interface composed of protein nanotubes that burst into quantum resonance 
>>> about 40 times a second.  You and me are minds in the aether activating 
>>> quantum relaxation oscillators to be you and me, per Sir Penrose and Dr. 
>>> Hameroff.
>>> 
>>> In the PH model, quantum resonance decays through the Fibonacci spirals of 
>>> a protein nanotube to ultimaltely afford 'when' a neuron fires.  
>>> 
>>> The electrons of the nanotubes resonate with energy within the quantum 
>>> noise-floor (my term) between the atoms of the nanotubes.
>>> 
>>> Is this a proper grammatical construct for the Orch OR Theory?
>>> 
>>> Druthers?
>>> 
>>> Assume the signal propagation of mind is in the aether plenum and is 
>>> superluminal and scalar (all directions isotropically).
>>> 
>>> By that assumption, 'mind' in the aetheric plenum is a zero-dimensional 
>>> oscillation over time, I think.
>>> 
>>> Is 'zero-dimensional' the proper notation for a signal that varied in 
>>> quality nearly** everywhere at once? 
>>> 
>>> **nearly: superluminal is not infinite.
>>> 
>>> Let's huddle.
>>> 
>>> If every neuron is synchopated with the aether, then every neuron is 
>>> simultaneously aware of the same signal of 0-D mind in the aether.
>>> 
>>> If mind is superluminal, then every neuron active in our pulse-field of 
>>> brain-mind is tuned as a whole to one signal, our mind in the aether.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts, please?
>>> 
>>> Might there be some hint of simultaneity that may be sensorized within our 
>>> gray matter?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -don

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