> ...Once you have it working, > videotape the heck out of it This reminded me of your recent "high voltage air threads" video on Youtube. I just had a second look at it and also read the comments, where I noticed you wrote, in response to someone asking "Does this follow along the same theory as the lifter experiments?":
"...What's amazing is the apparent speed of the particles in this stream. Also, the streams can pass through a shielded volume many cm across (with no e-fields inside) and are weakened yet still are easily detected as they exit from the other side." I find the "pass through a shielded volume" bit quite amazing too (although, how do you know it's the same air thread and not another one emanating from the bottom of the shield?), but what do you find amazing about the apparent speed of the particles? If indeed they are air ions as you seem to favor (me too, unless the current turns out to be too high for the stream to remain focused), they will have a mobility of about 2*10^-4 m/s per V/m, i.e. for an average field of 7kV across 14cm we could expect an average speed of 2*10^-4 * 7000/0.14 = 10m/s (36 km/h, or 22 MPH), isn't this roughly what you estimated? Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Beaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Twilight Experience > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: > >> If someone is determined to force a conflict (interaction between >> disparate groups), the universe is infinitely clever at resolving the >> clash, even going so far as to use retro-causality, and as a last >> resort, forking off an entirely new reality ( I liked the TV series >> Sliders, which dramatized that sort of thing ). > > Now that you mention this, it makes me wonder... > > What if Steorn's prototypes ALL STOP WORKING? What if the successful > effect simply vanishes, never to return? If such a thing occurred, I bet > they'd never admit it to anyone. > > And whatever did happen with the CETI/Patterson-cell investors, staff, > management, etc.? Did they all just wander away in a daze? > > > > > "If it's a small piece of a new field of science, then there is a *very* > large chance that I won't understand what's causing it. I may > accidentally extinguish it and never get it back again. I've heard > laments from several inventors that they rebuilt their devices to > improve them, and they never worked again. So, DON'T take apart the > original invention! Don't move it to another location. Don't turn the > power off and back on. Just moving your arm a bit wrong might eliminate > the conditions which allowed success! Once you have it working, > videotape the heck out of it, call in eyewitnesses, perform experiments, > maybe even build several copies and get them working. Stay paranoid that > the phenomena might vanish at any time, never to return. > [RULES FOR INVENTORS, rule #2 http://amasci.com/freenrg/rules1.html] > > > (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) > William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website > billb at amasci com http://amasci.com > EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair > Seattle, WA 425-222-5066 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci >
