Robin van Spaandonk's message of October 02, 2009 ,

Hi Robin and Jed,

Robin wrote:

>Let me give a concrete example. Muon catalyzed fusion clearly meets the
>definition of a Low Energy Nuclear Reaction, and hence papers on it could
find a
>place in your library, but I suspect you wouldn't even consider including
them.
>I understand how this has happened. It's because CF started with lattice
based
>reactions, and all the work since has also been lattice based (AFAIK)- in
fact I
>doubt that anyone other than me has even considered that it might not need
to be
>lattice based.

I can think of at least 5 people other than you that have
seriously considered, based on Mills' gas phase experiments, that there may
well be a significant possibility of gas based cold fusion reactions.
There was even an "unofficial" poster paper at ICCF 14 describing
replications of Mills' gas phase experiments by a former Mills' associate.
Mills does not want to be associated with cold fusion for political reasons
and
will not submit papers to LENR-CANR.

Yes, it is reasonable to feel almost alone in considering non lattice based
cold fusion,
but there are a few of us out there quietly considering the relationship of
Mills
experiments to cold fusion experiments. It is interesting to consider that
Mills' gas
phase experiments are clearly overunity and apparently easy to replicate
compared to solid state cold fusion experiments. The simplicity of H2 + He
in a microwave plasma certainly requires new physics for an explanation.

>My point Jed, is that neither LENR nor CANR specifically implies the
presence of
>a lattice, hence I think restricting the content to papers based only on
lattice
>based LENR-CANR is too severe a restriction. It may as yet turn out that it
>really does only occur in a lattice, but I don't think we are that far
along yet
>in our understanding of the phenomenon (or perhaps phenomena if it turns
out
>that there are actually several different mechanisms capable of producing
>LENR-CANR).

Unfortunately the new name for the conference and journal, CMNS - Condensed
Matter Nuclear Science seems to exclude gas phase reactions. A very
unfortunate choice in my opinion. Fortunately, it will probably not be used
as
a reason for rejecting interesting papers. Now, if only people outside BLP
would
do some Mills experiments and submit them to CMNS / ICCF conferences
it might provide some needed communition between the fields which we
believe to be potentially related.

George Holz
Varitronics Systems
geo...@varisys.com



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