On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Frank Roarty wrote:
Horace, you have succeeded in steering me away from using the
DiFiore et all
proposals for anything other than demonstrating the break in
isotropy. In
re-reading their paper it appears they are trying to quantify the
opposing
net gravitational force for the entire structure of layered cavities.
That is correct.
By
building on that false premise I was shooting myself in the foot, The
calculated Casimir force is much higher and up converts the ratio of
short/long vacuum fluctuations curving space-time proportionally.
This is, and is based on, a conglomeration of phantasmagoric
hypotheses which makes no sense to me - so I'll not comment.
I intend
to put the standard Casimir formula for non ideal metals into a
spreadsheet
so I can compare the results between normal Casimir spacing and
reduced
spacing for fractional radii (home repairs are delaying me).
This then is the force between spheres. Casimir plates are made of
atoms. It would be astounding to make casimir plates out of hydino
matter. Maybe possible, but difficult in the extreme.
Whether you
subscribe to hydrino, relativistic or other scenario the narrowest
possible
plate spacing is reduced by a factor of 137 assuming Bourgoin's
math is
correct.
It is technically very difficult to obtain plate spacings of less
than a micron.
I seem to recall the narrowest dimensions mentioned for a Casimir
force was approximately 10 atoms wide so I would model the minimal
spacing
at 10x Bohr diameter/137 making the opening too small for even a
single
"normal" atom.
How do you propose to achieve this?
I realize there are some modifications to how the boundary
fields of the plates add in very close proximity. I haven't
actually read
the Lifshitz work yet to see if this will come into play before the
minimum
1/137 orbital radius proposed by Bourgoin is achieved. I also think a
temperature coefficient will need to be considered based on the
difference
between Mills' results using a reactor and the slow results of
Arata using
just Hydrogen and Pd nano materials at room temperature.
Best Regards
Fran
For two large, neutral, parallel conducting plates separated by a
distance z
in vacuum attract each other with the force per unit area
P(z) =F(z) / S = -(pi^2 *
reduced h * c)
/ (240* z^3)
Here reduced h is the reduced Planck constant, c is the velocity
of light,
and S is the area of the plates.
The reduced Planck constant is commonly referred to in ascii as h_bar.
The force between two neutral conductive plates (ideally conducting
and zero temperature) of area A with separation z is given by:
F(z,A) = -(Pi^2 h_bar c A)/(240 z^4)
The force Fs(z,R) between a sphere of radius R and plate at distance
z from a plane, where R>>z, is given by Mohideen:
Fs(z,R) = -(Pi^3 h_bar c R)/(360 z^3)
I think the above must be a typo. A more logical formula is:
Fs(z,R) = -(Pi^3 h_bar c R^3)/(360 z^3)
There are also corrections that have to be made for finite
conductivity, roughness of surface, potentials if nonzero, and
temperature. For info on the above see:
http://www.mit.edu/~kardar/research/seminars/Casimir/PRL-Mohideen98.pdf
We can thus deduce the force per unit area Fu(z) between plates as:
Fu(z) = F(z,A) / A = [-(Pi^2 h_bar c A)/(240 z^4)]/A = -(Pi^2
h_bar c)/(240 z^4)
Mostpanenko gives the formula for the force F2s between two spheres
of radius R1 and R2 as:
F2s(z,R1,R2) = -K (R1)^3 (R2)^3 / z^7
where K depends on the material involved.
It is important to note that the Casimir force as described above is
between objects consisting of ordinary matter, not individual atoms
at close range. Forces change dramatically due to non zero point
field interactions between atoms at close range.
I think beyond all this there are some wonderful things to discover
about matter in collision. I think there are special states formed
periodically between orbital electrons and nuclei. These states have
delayed existences due to electroweak vacuum transactions that occur
in the nucleus when electrons are present there. These states are
comparatively simple when only hydrogen is involved. However, it just
may be wildly possible, fantasmagorically possible, that, during
atom-atom, or ion-ion collision of heavier atoms, neutral heavy
nuclei can be momentarily formed due to the action of the electron
cloud between the colliding nuclei, resulting in momentarily high
electron populations in one of the interacting nuclei. If such a
nuclear complex can indeed form then transmutation tunneling is
feasible resulting in heavy nucleus fusions that ordinarily would
require much energy, not just to overcome the Coulomb barrier, but to
provide the energy required for the nuclear binding.
I think the hydrino state, if it exists, is likely a very unstable
short lived state. It can be re-inflated by the vacuum, which is a
very good thing because that re-inflating energy is provided free by
the vacuum. Fortunately, the same thing can be said for heavy nuclei
fused by the presence of inter-nuclear electrons. The energy for the
strong force bond formation can be supplied by the vacuum with the
help of the post fusion trapped electrons interacting with the
vacuum. This kind of fusion might be supplied by lattice constrained
helium, resulting in mass 4 increments to lattice atoms, and it might
also account for heavy element fusion in arcs and collapsing bubbles.
This is all totally wild speculation on my part, but speculation
based on experimental evidence.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
