According to the second law you can only get a system to do "work"  if
parts of the system are at different temperatures. In this situation
the system is a diode and it does work by converting heat into light.
It is hard to tell from the description, but I am guessing the entire
diode is at an  elevated temperature.

harry

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why do you think it would violate the 2nd law? I don't understand.
>
> 2012/2/28 Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Pay attention at this:
>> >
>> > " Experiments directly confirm for the first time that this behavior
>> > continues beyond the conventional limit of unity electrical-to-optical
>> > power
>> > conversion efficiency."
>> >
>> > It is above the conventional, not that it produces energy out of
>> > nothing.
>> > This is just a way of saying that it exceeded expectation of light
>> > emission
>> > for a LED.
>>
>>
>> Yes. It uses electricity to change heat into light. The abstract:
>>
>> "A heated semiconductor light-emitting diode at low forward bias
>> voltage V<kBT/q is shown to use electrical work to pump heat from the
>> lattice to the photon field. Here the rates of both radiative and
>> nonradiative recombination have contributions at linear order in V. As
>> a result the device’s wall-plug (i.e., power conversion) efficiency is
>> inversely proportional to its output power and diverges as V
>> approaches zero. Experiments directly confirm for the first time that
>> this behavior continues beyond the conventional limit of unity
>> electrical-to-optical power conversion efficiency."
>>
>>
>> however, wouldn't this require a violation of the second law of
>> thermodynamics?
>>
>> Harry
>>
>
>
>
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