So Guenter,
Why would seriously challenging you worldview worry you? Wouldn’t you prefer the truth, even if it completely decimates your worldview? As a scientist/engineer, I want to know what *IS*, not what happens to agree with my current understanding of what is… -Mark From: Guenter Wildgruber [mailto:gwildgru...@ymail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:50 PM To: Peter Gluck Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations Peter, somehow I missed that. Anyway. 200 degC would be quite something. 400degC would be disruptive. >600degC earth-shattering. A range where I am having some conceptual difficulties with. Presumably theory also. But this is commonsensical extrapolation from my side,without any firm ground, I must confess. As stated, such a simple parameter like temperature could seriously challenge my worldview, which worries me somehow, but I do not reject it out of hand. We will see. all the best Guenter _____ Von: Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com> An: Guenter Wildgruber <gwildgru...@ymail.com> CC: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Gesendet: 20:27 Samstag, 7.Juli 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations Dear Guenter, Nothing easier- if you make a Google Search for "Defkalion 650C" or a search on their Forum for 650C you will find tens of links. It was also written at Mats's Nyteknik. An example from many: Real news from Defkalion « nickelpower nickelpower.org/2012/03/26/real-news-from-defkalion/ 26 Mar 2012 – Rossi is a “one-man-band” and Defkalion has 27 scientists. .... they say that they reactor work until 650C (limit of bare rector test) and according . I had a cognitive shock- what they have is a process different from Piantelli's based on preformed nanoclusters. Those clusters are destroyed fast over 400C. There are many implications but I don't think we have to change our world/science views. And now Rossi re-discovers this high temperature process. Progress! Peter On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Guenter Wildgruber <gwildgru...@ymail.com> wrote: Dear Peter, obviously I missed this one, Could You provide a link? The temperature issue obviously is a very central one, and, I must confess, contradicts my theories of the inner working of the e-cat/Hyperion, which is somewhat like a random heating up on several locations. If this would be the case , those random heat-centers (estimated >>1000degC) would be self-annihilate by melting. Ofcourse we are theoretizing on this issue, but controllability in the 650degC domain would indicate that the process is quite homogenous, and not sporadicly dispersed over say 1-10 um2 heat centers- as I up to now hypothesized, on hopefully realistic grounds. But maybe this is only my worldview, which crumbles. If this would be the case, it would indicate that this is a VERY benign process, and, I must confess, I would -as said- have to rework my entire worldview, which is based on randomness and the universe's indifference to our human desires at large. (hope this is understandable) I am not ready for that. Therefore I remain sceptical. LENR: Yes. Saving us from our follies - or extending them: No. All the best Guenter _____ Von: Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com> An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 15:19 Samstag, 7.Juli 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]: ECAT 600 C Operations Dear Axil I agree- however DGTG started to speak about temperatures over 650 C from February this year, so if somebody has invented LENR ++- it was Defkalion. peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com <http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/>