Given the fact that the fastest glacier moves 30m/day I would place my igloo on a LENR boosted sled
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:29 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > I am not sure where a guy can hide if a 1 mile thick glacier bears down > upon his nice warm LENR heated home. Many times our actions end up making > the overall situation worse since we do not know the consequences > associated with them. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chemical Engineer <cheme...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 5:19 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides > > " Pick an optimum parts per million CO2 level:(350? ….The way climate is > now) and keep it there). LENR can enable this sort of climate management." > > I agree, no need to over-engineer. Seems like even with a new ice age > LENR will make living in the snow & ice cozier. > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Such interplanetary geoengineering is not a good idea. Please leave >> mother nature alone in terms of the amount of carbon we can get our hands >> on. The real long term danger to humankind is the next ice age. JoJo is >> right, if we use all our CO2 reserves now, we will not be able to stop the >> new onslaught of the next ice age. There are chlorinated fluorocarbons that >> can do the job instead of CO2 to manage global warming but IMHO, the best >> way to manage the climate is through the carbon cycle. >> >> The disagreement in this tread is at its heart, how to best manage the >> climate, and with the dawn of the LENR age such grand things are possible. >> >> Pick an optimum parts per million CO2 level:(350? ….The way climate is >> now) and keep it there). LENR can enable this sort of climate management. >> >> >> What mars needs is more water, it has enough carbon in its atmosphere >> in the form of CO2. It also needs a protective magnetic field, and LENR can >> help power this high energy particle radiation deflection system. >> >> We need to direct water bearing asteroids to Mars to provide this >> water. And LENR can help in doing this job too. >> >> Cheers: Axil >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> I wrote: >>> >>> >>>> There might be market for carbon or carbon compounds on the Moon or >>>> Mars for all we know. We might send millions of tons a day up by space >>>> elevator and dispatch it around the solar system. I doubt that will happen, >>>> but you never know. >>>> >>> >>> This may sound utterly impractical. You might think the gigantic mass >>> of material involved makes it out of the question. Think again. We know the >>> approximate mass of material, and it is not so gigantic. We have already >>> moved that mass of carbon compounds. We just have to move it again. The >>> mass of carbon or carbon compounds that we would ship to Mars (or whoever >>> wants to buy it) would be roughly equal to the mass of coal and oil that >>> has been mined and shipped around the earth since 1800. That is a lot, but >>> not an unthinkable amount. I think it takes ~50 supertanker deliveries per >>> day to move oil around the world. A space elevator terminal dispatching 50 >>> supertanker-sized loads of carbon compounds or wood to other planets would >>> be expensive and large, but not much bigger than than a major port such >>> as Savannah, Georgia. It would be operated entirely by robots. >>> >>> If you were to extract carbon from the atmosphere, and then keep >>> dispatching carbon compounds on something like this scale for 200 to 400 >>> years, you would reverse the effects of the combustion from the beginning >>> of the industrial revolution. You would do it at a profit. I hope 200 to >>> 400 years would be fast enough. >>> >>> It might be more profitable to simply export the remaining coal from >>> the earth, or to extract carbon from other sources in the solar system. >>> However, the purpose of would be to reverse global warming while at the >>> same time producing something useful. >>> >>> I suppose we would use a combination of techniques. Selling some >>> carbon, burying some, using some to build wooden houses. >>> >>> I predict that people will want to live in wooden houses far into the >>> future, with wooden furniture, even after other synthetic materials become >>> available. Wood looks nicer. People like traditional materials. Japanese >>> people will want tatami made from natural rice straw and rush far into the >>> future. Why wouldn't they? It smells nice. New tatami is a pleasure to sit >>> on. As they say, to live a pleasant life you should get new tatami and a >>> new wife, often. >>> >>> - Jed >>> >>> >> >
