In past experiments, Russ has shown that a 40,000 high voltage discharge
does not produce piston movement.   This is one reason that I distrust the
workability of the J. Rohner system.   Russ’s current design is the exactly
thr B Rohner design. IMHO, the parameter that is causative is instantaneous
power. Power delivered in a nanosecond is what causes a reaction in the
piston.   This design thinking will be tested in experimentation, the final
judge of all truth.
Cheers:    Axil

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:34 PM, <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In reply to  Axil Axil's message of Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:21:55 -0500:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> > The reason why Russ is using so much spark power (500 joules ) is because
> >he is following the system that Bob Rohner built which does  NOT use
> >pre-ionization.   The new control circuit that Russ has invented will
> >pre-ionize the spark channel with a low amperage high voltage spark of
> >about 90, 000 volts  from two auto ignition coils wired in series.   This
> >will switch in the high powered spark discharge from this capacitor bank
> at
> >about 350 volts. This is called “Triggering in a trigatron spark gap”.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigatron   for the theory, see:
> >
> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CEwQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdigitalcommons.unl.edu%2Fcgi%2Fviewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1022%26context%3Delecengwilliams&ei=R_PIUN_YCOTD0AGMroDYBg&usg=AFQjCNEs1s7LOYnRaKBY4XIihziFcWZAEg&sig2=KhJ0T3Lkdd_I_ol5YZEcAw
> >  This is an innovation that Russ will test to reduce the power needed to
> >ionize the penning gas mix.   Papp used RF or spark voltage to regulate
> the
> >speed of the engine. Russ will use spark timing as is currently done in
> gas
> >engines. Cheers:   Axil * * * * * *
>
> ..which clearly shows that Russ has no idea of the process involved. It's
> precisely the high voltage that is mandatory. (The electrons need as much
> kinetic energy as you can give them.)
> More low energy electrons will not do the trick. Analogous to the
> photoelectric
> effect.
> Energy put into creating low energy electrons is mostly wasted. What he
> should
> be using is a 20 kV capacitor bank, not 350 V.
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>
>

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