Please immediately move all debunking to VortexB-L. Vortex' Rule 2 is intended to prevent debunking-based postings here. Also please read:
On Wed, 8 May 2013, Edmund Storms wrote: > What is the usefulness of all this discussion. Cude will not accept the > most obvious and well supported arguments and he will not accept what I > just said here. Yes, such discussions usually prove pointless. A simple problem with a simple solution: "DEBUNKING" IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN ON VORTEX-L. If you see some, it's probably coming from someone who didn't read the forum rules: http://amasci.com/weird/wvort.html#rules It's not just about "no sneering." Skeptics are not welcome here. Vortex-L exists to provide a Believer forum which stays far away from the message traffic and time wasted in discussions with staunch non- Believers. There's plenty of other groups for such topics if you want to indulge (including vortexB-L.) And, if rule #2 isn't clear enough, well, here's the expanded version: http://amasci.com/weird/vmore.html Note well: "I started this group as an openminded quiet harbor for interested parties to discuss the Griggs Rotor away from the believer-skeptic uproar on sci.physics.fusion. It quickly mutated into a "believers forum" for discussion of cold fusion and other anomalous physics. I created Rule #2 to prevent this list from becoming another battleground like the sci.physics.fusion newsgroup. Be warned: IF YOU SELF-IDENTIFY AS "NON-WOO," THEN YOU COULD BE REMOVED FROM THE FORUM AT ANY TIME. PS Hey, part of that old article in THE SKEPTIC is now on google books... Skepticism and Credulity, Finding balance between Type-I and -II errors http://goo.gl/jU5Zf Another one: BERKUN, Why smart people defend bad ideas http://scottberkun.com/essays/40-why-smart-people-defend-bad-ideas/ (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci