I have the same opinion as you Eric. It is difficult to believe in dark matter in particular since it can not be detected except through the behavior of gravitation. I find it easier to suspect that there is a phenomena occurring in the behavior of gravity that we have not yet discovered. Actually, dark energy is also derived by actions of gravity that we do not understand as far as I can determine. Also, the search for gravity waves seems to be yielding nothing so far although that might be related to the sensitivity of the measuring devices.
Perhaps someone on this list is aware of a measurement of the speed at which gravity waves travel, which is assumed to be the speed of light. It would be most interesting to find that this assumption is erroneous. The apparent action at a distance of entangled particles behaves in a manner that is inconsistent with the light speed limitation and I have noticed that light is tied to electromagnetic fields. It would not be too surprising to find that other fields do not experience the same limitations. A good question for the list is: Has the speed of any other type of field except electromagnetic been measured as equal to light? I realize that the velocity of particles moving within accelerators and neutrinos comply with this rule. Both of these phenomena are particles, but how about other fields such as gravity? Any proof available? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:53 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:06 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: Dark energy, matter and gravitational effects are likely not involved to any major degree. I like Robin's approach -- perhaps there's an intrinsic process driving the sun's 11 year cycle, and it has influenced where the planets formed and how they orbit in relation to one another. Perhaps there is a very low frequency acoustic resonance at work, like the ringing of a slow bell. As a layperson watching astrophysics from a distance, I have not yet been persuaded of the need for dark matter or energy. It has always felt a little bit like an ad hoc remedy to make other assumptions work. I'm sure if one is more familiar with all of the pieces and how they fit together, it is harder to ignore these two hypotheses (dark matter and dark energy). Eric
