David,

They don't just twist, they break off and go thru magnetic reconnection
expelling billions of tons of energetic particles into space as CMEs and
also flares.  At 1-5 per day over a few billion years that is a lot of
energetic stuff, where is all that stuff?

Stewart

A *coronal mass ejection* (*CME*) is a massive burst of solar
wind<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_wind> and
magnetic fields rising above the solar <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun>
corona <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona> or being released into space.[1
] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection#cite_note-1>

Coronal mass ejections are often associated with other forms of solar
activity, most notably solar flares<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_flares>,
but a causal relationship has not been established. Most ejections
originate from active regions on the Sun's surface, such as groupings of
sunspots <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunspot> associated with frequent
flares. Near solar maxima <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_maximum>, the
Sun produces about three CMEs every day, whereas near solar
minima<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_minimum>,
there is about one CME every five
days.[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection#cite_note-Fox-2>
coronal mass ejections reach velocities between 20km/s to 3200km/s with an
average speed of 489km/s, based on
SOHO<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_and_Heliospheric_Observatory>
/LASCO<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LASCO_Large_Angle_and_Spectrometric_Coronagraph>measurements
between 1996 and 2003. The average mass is 1.6×1012kg. The values are only
lower limits, because coronagraph measurements provide only two-dimensional
data analysis.


On Monday, September 30, 2013, David Roberson wrote:

> I have read of a model of the sun which tend to demonstrate the magnetic
> effects (sun spots) based upon magnetic field lines captured within the
> conductive plasma.  The lines get twisted as the sun rotates according to
> the model.  Perhaps the whole concern about an 11 year cycle affected by
> outside influences is just a red herring.  Dark energy, matter and
> gravitational effects are likely not involved to any major degree.
>
>  It would be interesting to find that one of these influences is at work,
> but no one has found evidence to support the idea as far as I know.
>
>  Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mixent <mix...@bigpond.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'mix...@bigpond.com');>>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'vortex-l@eskimo.com');>>
> Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sun's 11-Year Cycle Caused by Dark Matter
>
>  In reply to  Eric Walker's message of Mon, 30 Sep 2013 07:47:26 -0700:
> Hi,
>
> Could the eleven year solar cycle be the reason that the largest planet in the
> solar system formed at a distance where the orbital period matched the solar
> cycle? (roughly).
>
> [snip]
> >Could there be some kind of effect from a tidal force on the sun arising
> >from the pull of the planets when they converge on a certain pattern every
> >eleven years?
> >
> >Eric
>
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>
>

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