Are these the same guys that missed the mass/energy of the universe by
1900% (95/5)...:)


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Mauro Lacy <ma...@lacy.com.ar> wrote:

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> On 09/30/2013 11:47 AM, Eric Walker wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Mauro Lacy <ma...@lacy.com.ar> wrote:
>
>   I found it odd that nobody mentions the *positions* of the planets
>> (Jupiter, mainly), during solar max. Maybe to try to avoid the association
>> with astrology, the constellations, and related pseudo-scientific stuff?
>>
>
>   Could there be some kind of effect from a tidal force on the sun
> arising from the pull of the planets when they converge on a certain
> pattern every eleven years?
>
>
> That's the first reason one would think of. But, according to the one of
> the references in the 
> paper<http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1106/1106.0847.pdf>,
> a tidal effect is ruled out due to its small magnitude:
> "However, it was realized that the estimated planetary tidal impact was
> extremely small to cause any significant change of the dynamic Sun [2], or
> even less to justify the origin of the enigmatic 11 years cycle. For this
> reason the planetary - Sun connection has been ignored for long time, while
> such a claim was also seen not only within astronomy, but rather instead
> within the frame of astrology [3]!"
>
> Reference [2]: N. Scafetta / J. Atm. & Sol.-Terr. Phys. 81–82 (2012) 27,
> and ref’s therein;
> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364682612001034
> Reference [ 3]: P. Charbonneau, Nature 493 (2013) 613;
> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v493/n7434/pdf/493613a.pdf .
> See also J.A. Abreu, J. Beer, A. Ferriz-Mas, K.G. McCracken, F.
> Steinhilber,
> Astron. Astrophys. 548 (2012) A88;
>

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