On 09/30/2013 11:47 AM, Eric Walker wrote:
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Mauro Lacy <ma...@lacy.com.ar
<mailto:ma...@lacy.com.ar>> wrote:
I found it odd that nobody mentions the *positions* of the planets
(Jupiter, mainly), during solar max. Maybe to try to avoid the
association with astrology, the constellations, and related
pseudo-scientific stuff?
Could there be some kind of effect from a tidal force on the sun
arising from the pull of the planets when they converge on a certain
pattern every eleven years?
That's the first reason one would think of. But, according to the one of
the references in the paper
<http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1106/1106.0847.pdf>, a tidal effect
is ruled out due to its small magnitude:
"However, it was realized that the estimated planetary tidal impact was
extremely small to cause any significant change of the dynamic Sun [2],
or even less to justify the origin of the enigmatic 11 years cycle. For
this reason the planetary - Sun connection has been ignored for long
time, while such a claim was also seen not only within astronomy, but
rather instead within the frame of astrology [3]!"
Reference [2]: N. Scafetta / J. Atm. & Sol.-Terr. Phys. 81–82 (2012) 27,
and ref’s therein;
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364682612001034
Reference [ 3]: P. Charbonneau, Nature 493 (2013) 613;
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v493/n7434/pdf/493613a.pdf .
See also J.A. Abreu, J. Beer, A. Ferriz-Mas, K.G. McCracken, F. Steinhilber,
Astron. Astrophys. 548 (2012) A88;