Mark--

One of the issues is what is the extent of Coherency--I have been calling it 
coupling   the material systems we know. 

Are crystals coherent?, are nano particles coherent?,  
are molecules coherent?, are BEC coherent?, are semiconductor resistors 
coherent?  

What in your experience defines the size of a coherent system?  

Bob

rom: MarkI-ZeroPoint 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 11:11 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in 
evanescent light waves


  "However, on the basis of an old calculation by Belinfante [Physica 6 887 
(1939)], it can be shown that the spin may be regarded as an angular momentum 
generated by a *circulating flow* of energy in the wave field of the electron."

   

  This is at least somewhat understandable if one considers the vacuum as a 
near-frictionless fluid under extreme pressure. you cannot have 'flow' without 
a pressure differential.

   

  "the spin of the electrons is entirely analogous to the angular momentum 
carried by a classical circularly polarized wave."

   

  I commented on the importance of "coherence" in a posting several days ago. 
well, coherence involves not only a frequency component, but a polarization (or 
phase relationship) component.  The bulk matter, or 'chemistry' that Dr. Storms 
has spent his life in, does NOT involve coherency. the laws that he is 
intimately familiar with do not involve systems where significant groups of 
atoms/electrons/SPP/???  are all coherently interacting. LENR will require a 
new set of laws for these regions of coherent entities.

   

  -Mark Iverson

   

  From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 9:08 PM
  To: vortex-l
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in 
evanescent light waves

   

  http://jayryablon.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/ohanian-what-is-spin.pdf

   

   What is Spin? Am J. Phys. 54 (6) June 1986. The abstract is:

  According to the prevailing belief, the spin of the electron or some other 
particle is a mysterious internal angular momentum for which no concrete 
physical picture is available, and for which there is no classical analog. 
However, on the basis of an old calculation by Belinfante [Physica 6 887 
(1939)], it can be shown that the spin may be regarded as an angular momentum 
generated by a circulating flow of energy in the wave field of the electron. 
Likewise, the magnetic moment may be regarded as generated by a circulating 
flow of charge in the wave field. This provides an intuitivelyl appealing 
picture and establishes that neither the spin nor the magnetic moment are 
"internal" - they are not associated with the internal structure of the 
electron, but rather with the structure of the field. Furthermore, a comparison 
between calculations of angular momentum in the Dirac and electromagnetic 
fields shows that the spin of the electrons is entirely analogous to the 
angular momentum carried by a classical circularly polarized wave.

  On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:00 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Regarding Belinfante spin momentum.

   

  Belinfante worked out that the spin of the electron was produced as a result 
of its wave function and not motion of  forces within the electron.

   

  Now the same considerations show that spin comes from angular momentum and 
the wave nature of photons.

   

  That leans support to the concept that electrons and photons are related if 
not identical. 

   

   

  On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

  Jones--

   

  It seems an answer to my original question for this blog--2 months ago--about 
spin coupling is finally coming out.  I hope Ed takes note and decides to 
address the basic parameter, spin, in his theory for LENR..

   

  Bob

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Bob Cook 

    To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 

    Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:12 PM

    Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in 
evanescent light waves

     

    Jones--

     

    the rabbit hole just became more crowded.

     

    Bob

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Jones Beene 

      To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 

      Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 2:32 PM

      Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in 
evanescent light waves

       

      These references tie into the thread on a dynamical Casimir effect in 
LENR and to SPP. 

      That may be why they were sent, but in case the connection is not obvious 
to everyone, here is an additional point. 

      Mie scattering and Mie's solution to Maxwell - is the scattering of 
electromagnetic radiation by a sphere. Generally a sphere makes a good radiator 
but does not make a good antenna, but there are exceptions. When the sphere is 
a micron-sized nickel powder, loaded with hydrogen and with nanometer geometry 
in the surface features (tubules), all of this becomes relevant to SPP.

      On page 5 of the first link, they talk about SPP "Recently, we described 
such spin for surface plasmon polariton, and it was shown that the imaginary 
longitudinal field component plays an important role in optical coupling 
processes. 

      From: Mark Jurich 

           Mark Iverson wrote:

           | Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in evanescent light 
waves

           | http://phys.org/news/2014-03-extraordinary-momentum-evanescent.html

           | Paper Ref:

          | 
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2014/140306/ncomms4300/full/ncomms4300.html

      FYI:

      arXiv Preprint: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1308/1308.0547.pdf

      (arXiv Abstract: http://arxiv.org/abs/1308.0547)

      - Mark Jurich

   

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