David, I have focused on high powered, pulsed Doppler, so I cannot comment on radio. I liked Jones' post about a powered receiver and not high powered transmitters. Maybe low power GPS instead of high powered radar. I am a chemical engineer and the first thing I noticed in addition to the dying fish due to hypoxia is the appearance of more sinkholes (in limestone) around microwave towers in Florida. The microwave towers appear to be dissolving limestone in Florida at a higher rate. (no statistics yet, just maps).
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/rf-and-microwave-stations-and-sinkholes-in-florida.png Download Google Earth FCC file here:<https://productforums.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/gec-dynamic-data-layers/VKAkuBNWtC8> You can download/insert the Sinkhole image from here<http://www.insurancejournal.com/img/articles/fl-sinkhole-map.jpg> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 1:52 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > If you want something to be concerned about all you need do is look at > those experiments that use an enormous magnetic coil induced fields into > the brains of subjects. Or, the shock treatments that come close to > frying your head. Have you had an MRI lately? > > I can not help but to believe that severe damage must be taking place > under those types of circumstances. The RF fields associated with cellular > phones and remote transmitter sites is small potatoes in comparison. > > I have read of many research projects directed toward finding damage due > to cellular telephones and none have been proven conclusive. If the effect > were obvious that would not be the case. > > Of course national departments will always hedge their bets by suggesting > that there may be some negative effect so far unseen. Should we cease > using radio for communication since no one can prove that it has zero > negative consequences? Forget about cold fusion becoming a distributed > product if the same level of scrutiny is used to prevent it from being > used. Some risk is worth taking if we are to move forward. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 12:20 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio > > It is time to get beyond heating as the only way for brain damage to > occur. If the brain functions like an electrical communication network, > then it is possible to disrupt the network by means that don't require > heating. > > Harry > > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:44 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote: > >> Much depends upon how your mechanism causes the harm. If heat is the >> problem, then the average power is important. Microwave cooking depends >> upon heating to prepare the meal. The instantaneous peak power might be >> able to ignite a fast acting explosive material or cause a bulb to ionize, >> but the average energy is what is detected by the radar receiving system. >> >> When you perform your analysis of the damage due to radar transmitters, >> are you able to determine how well centered the effect is about the >> device? Another consideration is that the antenna pattern is generally >> directed above the ground level for a large distance. Many folks have >> expressed deep concern for the effects of cellular radio towers due to >> misunderstandings about radio power levels. It is generally easy to worry >> about issues that involves "black magic" when dealing with the public since >> people tend to seek simple explanations to their perceived problems >> especially when random events seem to defy understanding. >> >> ChemE, I have no idea about how well you have performed your analysis of >> the radar environmental damages that you are following. I assume that you >> have also included research which would prove that the lack of a tower >> always shows none of the degradation expected due to RF. What is the >> signal to noise level that you are working with? Are you confident that >> you could take a random sample of sites, some with radars and some without, >> and pick the active ones every time? >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 9:50 am >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio >> >> David, >> >> To say it in another way, you can average the power in Mike Tyson's >> punch over one minute and say that it is low average power when in fact it >> knocked you on your ass in a fraction of a second. That is the error in >> judgement I believe the radar physorcists have made and we are all paying >> dearly for. Think of mama and the baby on a hillside deck getting swept by >> those pulses 5 or 6 times a minute and you will understand what I mean. >> What if time did not exist like Einstein and others have claimed and you >> could not average that pulse over time??? What would you do then? >> >> >> These are the NEXRAD WSR-88 "Standard" Doppler Weather Radar Specs >> (there are ~150 of these in service in the US). Due to the higher gain they >> have more power density @ 10 km than an ASR-9 radar. >> >> Radar/Call SignFFC ModelWSR-88DMax Pulsed Power (Watts)1000000Gain (dBi) >> 45.5Frequency (MHz)2,850.0RPM6.0 Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km 112.9Pulse >> Duration(uSec)1.6Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)800Range Est. (Miles)143 >> Latitude33.36358856 Longitude-84.56607328FIPS13113CountyFayetteStateGA >> Comments/SourceUpgraded to Dual Pol in 2010-2012 >> >> >> These are the Airport TDWR "Standard" Doppler Weather Radar Specs >> (There are ~ 50 of these in service) >> >> TDWR 5615 MHzModelTDWRMax Pulsed Power (Watts)250,000Gain (dBi)50Frequency >> (MHz)5,575 RPM5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km79.58Pulse Duration(uSec) >> 1.1Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)2000Range Est. (Miles) 56Latitude33.64659872 >> Longitude-84.26191362FIPS13151 CountyHenryStateGA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:01 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote: >> >>> The specifications for the radar system below are typical of a pulsed >>> radar system and not what I would expect from a standard Doppler radar. >>> The duty cycle appears to be .1% for the unit listed whereas a Doppler >>> radar is CW. The average power is 1300 watts of RF into the antenna, I >>> assume. The gain of the antenna may be 34 dB relative to an isotropic >>> radiator. >>> >>> Someone might be thinking of a pulsed Doppler radar which measures the >>> change in transmit frequency of the returning pulses to get target velocity >>> information. That type of radar is not a standard Doppler. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> >>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >>> Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 9:18 pm >>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio >>> >>> Stewart, >>> >>> I have glanced at your web site. I have not taken a close look at >>> your research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto >>> something about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free >>> radicals and the death of nearby animal and plant life. You also have a >>> theory of dark matter, and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly >>> responsible for the conclusions concerning doppler radar that you arrive at >>> in your informal research. >>> >>> On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion. I am >>> skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind >>> of linkage between the effects of doppler radar and dark matter, however. >>> In light of this doubt, I think you might be able to get your >>> investigation into doppler radar out to a wider audience if you did not >>> combine it with the question of dark matter. Adding dark matter into the >>> mix asks too much of people in their suspension of disbelief for them to be >>> able to give much credibility to your doppler radar hunch, even if both >>> hunches ended up being true. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Radar/Call SignMHTModel ASR-9Max Pulsed Power (Watts)1,300,000Gain >>>> (dBi)34Frequency (MHz)2,800RPM12.5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km >>>> 10.39Pulse Duration(uSec)1.00Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)1,000Range Est. >>>> (Miles)60Latitude42.937248 Longitude-71.437286FIPS33011County >>>> HillsboroughStateNH >>>> >>> >>> >> >
