Your email reply to Peter hit the mailing seconds after I had hit send :-) Waterproof iPhone cases are not meant for taking a swim in the river.
Hey Michael, don't push yourself so hard when training on the river. Stick to coaching rowers ;-) Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > On 16 Oct 2015, at 12:22 PM, Michael Hawkins > <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote: > > Thanks Ronni, > > For me it all went awry when my very new iPhone in a very new supposedly > water proof case got wet after the carbon fibre shaft of a two month old > you-beaut oar snapped and the single scull I was in flipped. > > The case was not entirely waterproof and the iPhone got a little damp - damp > enough to be replaced by Telstra. Telstra had set up the damaged phone and > everything went very well but for some reason the replacement phone was set > up for POP and my laptop was set up for IMAP. > > As from 8:05 this morning I’ve been set up for IMAP on phone and laptop. > > Cheers, > > Michael Hawkins. > > >> On 16 Oct 2015, at 12:11 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, Neil and Michael, >> >> Starting in iOS 6 the iOS email setup became smarter, and tries to figure >> out whether your ISP supports IMAP, and if it does, creates an IMAP account >> on the iPhone. >> >> If your ISP does not support IMAP it creates a POP3 account. >> There are 2 problems with this added intelligence: >> 1. Sometimes it makes a mistake, and creates a POP account even if the ISP >> supports IMAP. >> 2. Sometimes even if your ISP supports IMAP you might prefer a POP account. >> (I don’t know why people would but…) >> >> I’ve had this happen where the iPhone would auto select POP even though the >> server supported IMAP. >> One way you can force the setup to give you a choice of POP or IMAP. >> Is to type in a fake email address dpj...@dpe.sp when setting it up, iOS >> will then try to auto-discover the account settings when it can’t it will >> ask you to fill in the server details and you can select POP or IMAP. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >> >> El Capitan OS X 10.11 >> >>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 11:35 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: >>> >>> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the >>> IMAP accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not >>> present until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to >>> the top of that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. >>> The account set up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details >>> first, whereupon entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that >>> - and for some reason my iphone had defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond >>> outgoing server (I am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it >>> provided me the choice at that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware >>> of this prior to the other day when I was making the changes across my >>> devices per the thread below. >>> >>> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup >>> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this >>> account type. >>> >>> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of >>> days, I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long >>> deleting stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires. >>> >>> Pete. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> wamug@wamug.org.au >>> >>> To: >>> "WAMUG" <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>> Cc: >>> >>> Sent: >>> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800 >>> Subject: >>> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP >>> >>> >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of >>> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under >>> earlier iOS versions. >>> >>> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email >>> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've >>> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back >>> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and >>> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and >>> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up. >>> >>> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP. >>> >>> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running >>> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2 >>> >>> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't >>> know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different >>> about the internode email set-up. >>> >>> However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3 >>> computers - all running SL ;o) - so I now think the internode email is not >>> the problem. >>> >>> It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding >>> that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o(( >>> >>> Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me to the >>> hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings ;o) >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> >>> Neil >>> -- >>> Neil R. Houghton >>> Albany, Western Australia >>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>> Email: n...@possumology.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> on 16/10/15 2:37, Michael Hawkins at michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote: >>> >>> > If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it be >>> > over-ridden and POP specified instead? >>> > I use Westnet as ISP >>> > I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in through >>> > Mail >>> > on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I could lay >>> > my >>> > hands on, whether it be mine or a total strangers. >>> > >>> > Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing Mail from >>> > iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box, then >>> > pressing >>> > delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer appeared >>> > if >>> > logged onto webmail. >>> > (Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop - if >>> > deleted >>> > from laptop also deleted from iPhone and Server). >>> > From time to time access email by using webmail, in which case deleting >>> > email >>> > meant it did not show up if I subsequently checked email by using laptop >>> > or by >>> > using iPhone. >>> > >>> > I think possible results are >>> > (A) delete email on every one of Apple devices I use to check emails via >>> > Mail >>> > if deleted on server >>> > (B) delete email on Server when it is deleted on Apple device used to >>> > check >>> > emails >>> > (C) remain on Server if deleted on Apple device, so email still available >>> > on >>> > other devices used to check emails >>> > (D) deleted on Server and not accessible on any device if deleted by using >>> > webmail >>> > (E) remain accessible in deleted email box until specifically deleted from >>> > deleted email box. >>> > >>> > Assuming my list of possibilities is complete, what are the possible >>> > permutations? Can Server be set to IMAP, laptop be set to POP and iPhone >>> > be >>> > set to IMAP, or must each setting on each device be the same if emails are >>> > checked using an iOS device? >>> > >>> > Do deletion permutations vary depending upon whether POP or IMAP is >>> > selected >>> > on ISP server? >>> > >>> > Thank you, >>> > >>> > Michael Hawkins >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> >> On 14 Oct 2015, at 9:40 PM, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I guess this should all work, as long as you don't get one of your POP >>> >> accounts to delete messages from the server when you download it. >>> >> >>> >> Rob >>> >> >>> >>> On 14/10/2015 7:08 pm, Neil Houghton wrote: >>> >>> Hi Pete, Hi Daniel, >>> >>> >>> >>> I've been following this thread with some interest. If I understand the >>> >>> thread, the decision as to whether an account is IMAP or POP should be >>> >>> set >>> >>> at the hosting server and then the account in the email program has to >>> >>> be >>> >>> set to match (ie use the same protocol). >>> >>> >>> >>> Georgie & I have our own domains and generally use email accounts we >>> >>> have >>> >>> set-up on those. We have VERY limited email storage associated with >>> >>> these >>> >>> accounts and so we use POP and download everything from the server. No >>> >>> problems here except that there is also limited bandwidth and so >>> >>> occasionally we can hit the bandwidth limit. At some stage I will >>> >>> upgrade >>> >>> the hosting package which will address the storage/bandwidth >>> >>> limitations. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Our broadband provider (Internode) also provides email and so I set-up >>> >>> an >>> >>> internode email address for each of us - more as a back-up, we don't >>> >>> really >>> >>> use them as they would disappear if we changed Broadband providers. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I set these up several years ago, so I don't really remember the steps >>> >>> involved - but I can see that the email accounts on the computer are >>> >>> set as >>> >>> POP accounts and everything works fine (test emails to and from both >>> >>> mine & >>> >>> Georgies accounts. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Now, here's where it gets confusing.... >>> >>> >>> >>> Recently Georgie was getting (and due to get) quite a lot of emails with >>> >>> large phoo files attached - so I suggested she use her internode email >>> >>> address to avoid running into bandwidth/storage limitations on her >>> >>> personal >>> >>> email accounts. She had forgotten that she had this account and it was >>> >>> only >>> >>> configured on the computers so she asked me to set-up the account on her >>> >>> iPhone - which I did - only to find that mail on IOS automatically set >>> >>> up an >>> >>> IMAP account! >>> >>> >>> >>> So now it seems that there is an IMAP account on the iPhone and POP >>> >>> accounts >>> >>> on several computers all connecting to the same basic Internode email >>> >>> account. All seem to work well and send and receive email OK. >>> >>> >>> >>> The IMAP account leaves messages on the server (as you would expect). >>> >>> The >>> >>> POP accounts on the secondary computers also leave messages on the >>> >>> server >>> >>> (as they have been set to do) and the POP account on her main computer >>> >>> downloads messages from the server (as it has been set to do). >>> >>> >>> >>> I currently have 15 email accounts set-up in my email client on my >>> >>> computer >>> >>> and ALL are POP - so I would prefer to just keep everything the same. >>> >>> However Mail on IOS on the iPhones just automatically sets the internode >>> >>> accounts to IMAP and does not let me select POP. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> So I seem to have a hybrid IMAP/POP set-up - which just seems wrong! >>> >>> However, it all seems to work OK! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Any comments? Am I likely to run into any problems with this set-up? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Neil >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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