Hi Michael,

It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
earlier iOS versions.

The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.

Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.

My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2

As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
about the internode email set-up.

However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3
computers - all running SL  ;o)  - so I now think the internode email is not
the problem.

It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding
that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((

Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me to the
hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings  ;o)



Cheers



Neil
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Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com





on 16/10/15 2:37, Michael Hawkins at michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote:

> If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it be
> over-ridden and POP specified instead?
> I use Westnet as ISP
> I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in through Mail
> on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I could lay my
> hands on, whether it be mine or a  total strangers.
> 
> Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing Mail from
> iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box, then pressing
> delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer appeared if
> logged onto webmail.
> (Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop - if deleted
> from laptop also deleted from iPhone and Server).
> From time to time access email by using webmail, in which case deleting email
> meant it did not show up if I subsequently checked email by using laptop or by
> using iPhone.
> 
> I think possible results are
> (A) delete email on every one of Apple devices I use to check emails via Mail
> if deleted on server
> (B) delete email on Server when it is deleted on Apple device used to check
> emails
> (C) remain on Server if deleted on Apple device, so email still available on
> other devices used to check emails
> (D) deleted on Server and not accessible on any device if deleted by using
> webmail
> (E) remain accessible in deleted email box until specifically deleted from
> deleted email box.
> 
> Assuming my list of possibilities is complete, what are the possible
> permutations? Can Server be set to IMAP, laptop be set to POP and iPhone be
> set to IMAP, or must each setting on each device be the same if emails are
> checked using an iOS device?
> 
> Do deletion permutations vary depending upon whether POP or IMAP is selected
> on ISP server?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Michael Hawkins
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2015, at 9:40 PM, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> I guess this should all work, as long as you don't get one of your POP
>> accounts to delete messages from the server when you download it.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>>> On 14/10/2015 7:08 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:
>>> Hi Pete, Hi Daniel,
>>> 
>>> I've been following this thread with some interest. If I understand the
>>> thread, the decision as to whether an account is IMAP or POP should be set
>>> at the hosting server and then the account in the email program has to be
>>> set to match (ie use the same protocol).
>>> 
>>> Georgie & I have our own domains and generally use email accounts we have
>>> set-up on those. We have VERY limited email storage associated with these
>>> accounts and so we use POP and download everything from the server. No
>>> problems here except that there is also limited bandwidth and so
>>> occasionally we can hit the bandwidth limit. At some stage I will upgrade
>>> the hosting package which will address the storage/bandwidth limitations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Our broadband provider (Internode) also provides email and so I set-up an
>>> internode email address for each of us - more as a back-up, we don't really
>>> use them as they would disappear if we changed Broadband providers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I set these up several years ago, so I don't really remember the steps
>>> involved - but I can see that the email accounts on the computer are set as
>>> POP accounts and everything works fine (test emails to and from both mine &
>>> Georgies accounts.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now, here's where it gets confusing....
>>> 
>>> Recently Georgie was getting (and due to get) quite a lot of emails with
>>> large phoo files attached - so I suggested she use her internode email
>>> address to avoid running into bandwidth/storage limitations on her personal
>>> email accounts. She had forgotten that she had this account and it was only
>>> configured on the computers so she asked me to set-up the account on her
>>> iPhone - which I did - only to find that mail on IOS automatically set up an
>>> IMAP account!
>>> 
>>> So now it seems that there is an IMAP account on the iPhone and POP accounts
>>> on several computers all connecting to the same basic Internode email
>>> account. All seem to work well and send and receive email OK.
>>> 
>>> The IMAP account leaves messages on the server (as you would expect). The
>>> POP accounts on the secondary computers also leave messages on the server
>>> (as they have been set to do) and the POP account on her main computer
>>> downloads messages from the server (as it has been set to do).
>>> 
>>> I currently have 15 email accounts set-up in my email client on my computer
>>> and ALL are POP - so I would prefer to just keep everything the same.
>>> However Mail on IOS on the iPhones just automatically sets the internode
>>> accounts to IMAP and does not let me select POP.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So I seem to have a hybrid IMAP/POP set-up - which just seems wrong!
>>> However, it all seems to work OK!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any comments? Am I likely to run into any problems with this set-up?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil


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