I actually have a dedicated managed box over at Rackspace. Their support is top notch. And the webobjects app just keep chugging. I use mysql.
- James On Jul 28, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Ken Anderson wrote: > I'm considering using rackspace and fathomdb - seems very similar to ec2 and > rds. Anyone have any experience with rackspace? I've been using the for > mail hosting for a while and I like them. > > Ken > > On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Giles Palmer wrote: > >> +1 for a podcast! >> >> We are just starting down the EC2 route and would be very interested in your >> experiences. We are using postgres so can't make use of RDS which is a >> great shame, we are also intending to make use of hBase (Hadoop) for some of >> our file storage. >> >> Giles >> >> >>> You know, that could make a great podcast or even better, a nice WOWODC >>> presentation :-) Ubermind did a great introduction to WOlastic last year, >>> your case study can complement it. >>> >>>> doing what you've done means you're managing mysql, looking after it, >>>> making sure it doesn't fall over, doing backups, managing replication etc. >>>> rds does all of that for you. it also makes changing the config of your >>>> database server a breeze: need more disk space ? couple of clicks. need >>>> more ram ? couple of clicks. need more compute power behind it ? couple of >>>> clicks. need automatic fail-over to a different availability zone ? couple >>>> of clicks. >>>> >>>> re web server resources, remember it's just a normal wo deployment running >>>> in the cloud, so you can do whatever you do now. >>>> >>>> we don't separate the web and app tier - all our ec2 instances run >>>> monitor, wotaskd and apache, and are effectively independent of each >>>> other, and we use an elastic load balancer up front. >>>> >>>> simon >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 July 2010 17:40, James Cicenia <ja...@jimijon.com> wrote: >>>> So the base image is the actual OS? So you are managing it as the admin? >>>> >>>> I decided to try WOlastic. I configured the instances, setup up mysql with >>>> my users and sync'd the database from existing production to amazon. >>>> So you are suggesting RDS vs. what I just did? What are the benefits of >>>> RDS? Amazon backs up the mysql I created. >>>> >>>> Now I am a bit stumped on WebServerResources. How are you handling that? >>>> >>>> Well, if this works well, I can my webobject apps over and then just sell >>>> my server and drop the colo. >>>> >>>> - James >>>> >>>> On Jul 27, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Simon wrote: >>>> >>>>> rolling your own is surprisingly easy if you start with a base image. we >>>>> started out with a vanilla centos image from rightscale, and have built >>>>> it up into what we needed from there. you can then create an ebs-backed >>>>> ami in a couple of clicks. >>>>> >>>>> re pricing, it all depends on what you need. our financial models tell us >>>>> for our deployment is excellent value for money, and we can scale well >>>>> beyond our current needs and it remains as such. use the cost aws >>>>> calculator to figure out your own costs, and remember to factor in staff >>>>> costs in your decision making process. those DBA's are darn expensive >>>>> compared to RDS :-) >>>>> >>>>> http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/calc5.html >>>>> >>>>> the only performance issue we found is that it is basically impossible to >>>>> host your DB outside of amazon due to latency. but you don't have to use >>>>> RDS - if you like sticking needles in your eyes you can just run and look >>>>> after your own mysql / postgre / mssql / whatever on an ec2 instance. >>>>> >>>>> the general performance of our apps has also vastly improved. a mixture >>>>> of using more computing power and amazon having much faster internet >>>>> transit than we were paying for in our previous co-lo. >>>>> >>>>> alongside production we also run our staging servers and our hudson build >>>>> server on ec2. in productivity terms running hudson there was a huge leap >>>>> forward: previously a new build would take around 30 minutes to upload to >>>>> staging / production. now it takes 19 seconds flat :-) >>>>> >>>>> we're shortly going to move our subversion repository to ec2 as well. >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> >>>>> On 27 July 2010 15:13, James Cicenia <ja...@jimijon.com> wrote: >>>>> This is very cool. >>>>> >>>>> I need to move one of my servers, or, use the cloud approach for its >>>>> WOApps. I see you rolled your own but wolastic seems like it is for a >>>>> mere mortal. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone use wolastic? What is the pricing your are seeing? Issues? >>>>> Performances? Etc. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> James Cicenia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Simon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> we don't use the wolastic images (we have our own) but we do deploy >>>>>> entirely on the amazon ec2 cloud now. ec2 instances running standard >>>>>> javamonitor / wotaskd, amazon RDS for database server, s3 for file >>>>>> storage etc. scalability on demand, load balancing, redundancy across >>>>>> multiple availability zones. it's the best thing since sliced bread... >>>>>> >>>>>> our staging servers (also on ec2) run wonders javamonitor / wotasd and >>>>>> hence we'll probably upgrade our production servers to those soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> simon >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 July 2010 21:36, Ramsey Gurley <ram...@xeotech.com> wrote: >>>>>> I haven't tried it yet, but WOlastic looks like a *really* cool >>>>>> deployment solution for WO. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://wolastic.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Ramsey >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Ken Anderson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the thoughts guys! >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 2010-07-26 à 12:55, Chuck Hill a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Ken Anderson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been asked to comment on the best way to deploy WebObjects today >>>>>> without any "imposed" restrictions. I haven't done any new deployments >>>>>> in a long while, so I'm likely not up to date on the last. What are >>>>>> people using today, and why do they think it's the best? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks much! >>>>>> Ken >>>>>> >>>>>> Lacking imposed restrictions (e.g. must run in J2EE container), >>>>>> traditional WO deployment through Apache with mod_webobjects is probably >>>>>> the way to go. Anjo was working on mod_proxy deployment, but I don't >>>>>> recall how far he got or if he has this in production. It looked >>>>>> promising. There is also a Fast CGI adaptor and Ravi is working on >>>>>> something for WOWODC. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm adding some mods in JavaMonitor too (for WOWODC) and Andrew Lindesay >>>>>> also have stuff in LEWOStuff to use mod_proxy_ajp. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> Pascal Robert >>>>>> prob...@macti.ca >>>>>> >>>>>> AIM: MacTICanada >>>>>> Twitter : MacTICanada >>>>>> LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti >>>>>> WO Community profile : http://wocommunity.org/page/member?name=probert >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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