So the base image is the actual OS? So you are managing it as the admin?

I decided to try WOlastic. I configured the instances, setup up mysql with my 
users and sync'd the database from existing production to amazon.
So you are suggesting RDS vs. what I just did? What are the benefits of RDS? 
Amazon backs up the mysql I created.

Now I am a bit stumped on WebServerResources. How are you handling that?

Well, if this works well, I can my webobject apps over and then just sell my 
server and drop the colo.

- James

On Jul 27, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Simon wrote:

> rolling your own is surprisingly easy if you start with a base image. we 
> started out with a vanilla centos image from rightscale, and have built it up 
> into what we needed from there. you can then create an ebs-backed ami in a 
> couple of clicks.
> 
> re pricing, it all depends on what you need. our financial models tell us for 
> our deployment is excellent value for money, and we can scale well beyond our 
> current needs and it remains as such. use the cost aws calculator to figure 
> out your own costs, and remember to factor in staff costs in your decision 
> making process. those DBA's are darn expensive compared to RDS :-)
> 
> http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/calc5.html
> 
> the only performance issue we found is that it is basically impossible to 
> host your DB outside of amazon due to latency. but you don't have to use RDS 
> - if you like sticking needles in your eyes you can just run and look after 
> your own mysql / postgre / mssql / whatever on an ec2 instance.
> 
> the general performance of our apps has also vastly improved. a mixture of 
> using more computing power and amazon having much faster internet transit 
> than we were paying for in our previous co-lo.
> 
> alongside production we also run our staging servers and our hudson build 
> server on ec2. in productivity terms running hudson there was a huge leap 
> forward: previously a new build would take around 30 minutes to upload to 
> staging / production. now it takes 19 seconds flat :-)
> 
> we're shortly going to move our subversion repository to ec2 as well.
> 
> Simon
> 
> On 27 July 2010 15:13, James Cicenia <ja...@jimijon.com> wrote:
> This is very cool. 
> 
> I need to move one of my servers, or, use the cloud approach for its WOApps. 
> I see you rolled your own but wolastic seems like it is for a mere mortal.
> 
> Anyone use wolastic? What is the pricing your are seeing? Issues? 
> Performances? Etc.
> 
> Thanks.
> James Cicenia
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Simon wrote:
> 
>> we don't use the wolastic images (we have our own) but we do deploy entirely 
>> on the amazon ec2 cloud now. ec2 instances running standard javamonitor / 
>> wotaskd, amazon RDS for database server, s3 for file storage etc. 
>> scalability on demand, load balancing, redundancy across multiple 
>> availability zones. it's the best thing since sliced bread...
>> 
>> our staging servers (also on ec2) run wonders javamonitor / wotasd and hence 
>> we'll probably upgrade our production servers to those soon.
>> 
>> simon
>> 
>> On 26 July 2010 21:36, Ramsey Gurley <ram...@xeotech.com> wrote:
>> I haven't tried it yet, but WOlastic looks like a *really* cool deployment 
>> solution for WO.
>> 
>> http://wolastic.com/
>> 
>> Ramsey
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the thoughts guys!
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Le 2010-07-26 à 12:55, Chuck Hill a écrit :
>> 
>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Ken Anderson wrote:
>> 
>> I've been asked to comment on the best way to deploy WebObjects today 
>> without any "imposed" restrictions.  I haven't done any new deployments in a 
>> long while, so I'm likely not up to date on the last.  What are people using 
>> today, and why do they think it's the best?
>> 
>> Thanks much!
>> Ken
>> 
>> Lacking imposed restrictions (e.g. must run in J2EE container), traditional 
>> WO deployment through Apache with mod_webobjects is probably the way to go.  
>> Anjo was working on mod_proxy deployment, but I don't recall how far he got 
>> or if he has this in production.  It looked promising.  There is also a Fast 
>> CGI adaptor and Ravi is working on something for WOWODC.
>> 
>> I'm adding some mods in JavaMonitor too (for WOWODC) and Andrew Lindesay 
>> also have stuff in LEWOStuff to use mod_proxy_ajp.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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