I'm considering using rackspace and fathomdb - seems very similar to ec2 and rds. Anyone have any experience with rackspace? I've been using the for mail hosting for a while and I like them.
Ken On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Giles Palmer wrote: > +1 for a podcast! > > We are just starting down the EC2 route and would be very interested in your > experiences. We are using postgres so can't make use of RDS which is a great > shame, we are also intending to make use of hBase (Hadoop) for some of our > file storage. > > Giles > > >> You know, that could make a great podcast or even better, a nice WOWODC >> presentation :-) Ubermind did a great introduction to WOlastic last year, >> your case study can complement it. >> >>> doing what you've done means you're managing mysql, looking after it, >>> making sure it doesn't fall over, doing backups, managing replication etc. >>> rds does all of that for you. it also makes changing the config of your >>> database server a breeze: need more disk space ? couple of clicks. need >>> more ram ? couple of clicks. need more compute power behind it ? couple of >>> clicks. need automatic fail-over to a different availability zone ? couple >>> of clicks. >>> >>> re web server resources, remember it's just a normal wo deployment running >>> in the cloud, so you can do whatever you do now. >>> >>> we don't separate the web and app tier - all our ec2 instances run monitor, >>> wotaskd and apache, and are effectively independent of each other, and we >>> use an elastic load balancer up front. >>> >>> simon >>> >>> >>> On 27 July 2010 17:40, James Cicenia <ja...@jimijon.com> wrote: >>> So the base image is the actual OS? So you are managing it as the admin? >>> >>> I decided to try WOlastic. I configured the instances, setup up mysql with >>> my users and sync'd the database from existing production to amazon. >>> So you are suggesting RDS vs. what I just did? What are the benefits of >>> RDS? Amazon backs up the mysql I created. >>> >>> Now I am a bit stumped on WebServerResources. How are you handling that? >>> >>> Well, if this works well, I can my webobject apps over and then just sell >>> my server and drop the colo. >>> >>> - James >>> >>> On Jul 27, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Simon wrote: >>> >>>> rolling your own is surprisingly easy if you start with a base image. we >>>> started out with a vanilla centos image from rightscale, and have built it >>>> up into what we needed from there. you can then create an ebs-backed ami >>>> in a couple of clicks. >>>> >>>> re pricing, it all depends on what you need. our financial models tell us >>>> for our deployment is excellent value for money, and we can scale well >>>> beyond our current needs and it remains as such. use the cost aws >>>> calculator to figure out your own costs, and remember to factor in staff >>>> costs in your decision making process. those DBA's are darn expensive >>>> compared to RDS :-) >>>> >>>> http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/calc5.html >>>> >>>> the only performance issue we found is that it is basically impossible to >>>> host your DB outside of amazon due to latency. but you don't have to use >>>> RDS - if you like sticking needles in your eyes you can just run and look >>>> after your own mysql / postgre / mssql / whatever on an ec2 instance. >>>> >>>> the general performance of our apps has also vastly improved. a mixture of >>>> using more computing power and amazon having much faster internet transit >>>> than we were paying for in our previous co-lo. >>>> >>>> alongside production we also run our staging servers and our hudson build >>>> server on ec2. in productivity terms running hudson there was a huge leap >>>> forward: previously a new build would take around 30 minutes to upload to >>>> staging / production. now it takes 19 seconds flat :-) >>>> >>>> we're shortly going to move our subversion repository to ec2 as well. >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> On 27 July 2010 15:13, James Cicenia <ja...@jimijon.com> wrote: >>>> This is very cool. >>>> >>>> I need to move one of my servers, or, use the cloud approach for its >>>> WOApps. I see you rolled your own but wolastic seems like it is for a mere >>>> mortal. >>>> >>>> Anyone use wolastic? What is the pricing your are seeing? Issues? >>>> Performances? Etc. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> James Cicenia >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Simon wrote: >>>> >>>>> we don't use the wolastic images (we have our own) but we do deploy >>>>> entirely on the amazon ec2 cloud now. ec2 instances running standard >>>>> javamonitor / wotaskd, amazon RDS for database server, s3 for file >>>>> storage etc. scalability on demand, load balancing, redundancy across >>>>> multiple availability zones. it's the best thing since sliced bread... >>>>> >>>>> our staging servers (also on ec2) run wonders javamonitor / wotasd and >>>>> hence we'll probably upgrade our production servers to those soon. >>>>> >>>>> simon >>>>> >>>>> On 26 July 2010 21:36, Ramsey Gurley <ram...@xeotech.com> wrote: >>>>> I haven't tried it yet, but WOlastic looks like a *really* cool >>>>> deployment solution for WO. >>>>> >>>>> http://wolastic.com/ >>>>> >>>>> Ramsey >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Ken Anderson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the thoughts guys! >>>>> >>>>> Ken >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 2010-07-26 à 12:55, Chuck Hill a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Ken Anderson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've been asked to comment on the best way to deploy WebObjects today >>>>> without any "imposed" restrictions. I haven't done any new deployments >>>>> in a long while, so I'm likely not up to date on the last. What are >>>>> people using today, and why do they think it's the best? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks much! >>>>> Ken >>>>> >>>>> Lacking imposed restrictions (e.g. must run in J2EE container), >>>>> traditional WO deployment through Apache with mod_webobjects is probably >>>>> the way to go. Anjo was working on mod_proxy deployment, but I don't >>>>> recall how far he got or if he has this in production. It looked >>>>> promising. There is also a Fast CGI adaptor and Ravi is working on >>>>> something for WOWODC. >>>>> >>>>> I'm adding some mods in JavaMonitor too (for WOWODC) and Andrew Lindesay >>>>> also have stuff in LEWOStuff to use mod_proxy_ajp. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> Pascal Robert >>>>> prob...@macti.ca >>>>> >>>>> AIM: MacTICanada >>>>> Twitter : MacTICanada >>>>> LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti >>>>> WO Community profile : http://wocommunity.org/page/member?name=probert >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ramsey%40xeotech.com >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to ram...@xeotech.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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