Hi Kieran, That sounds good and would be great if it happened - also be a lot easier on the pocket ;o) - Obviously not so good for Chuck if he going to lose his beers tho
It's great to know there's a community round this side of the globe as well, I'm very new to WO but already really like it ease and flexibility, and a thriving active community (obviously with a sense of humor) goes a long way in my books. look forward to meeting some / all of you sometime Rich On 14/03/2012, at 12:42 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: > We have quite a few WebObjects community folk 'down under' - Quinton Dolan, > Matthew Ness, Paul Hoadley, Lachlan Deck, Andrew Lindsay ... to name a few - > we even have one very outspoken guy from this side of the globe who moved to > Borneo last year - David Avendasora - there is even a possibility that WOWODC > 2013 might even be 'down under' if David A. follows though on his promises ;-) > > Cheers, Kieran > > PS. We have many Davids in the community, so at least the first letter of the > last name is needed to properly qualify, otherwise you get a > EOUtilities.MoreThanOneException. > > PPS. There is a high probability that David A. could drink that beer on > behalf of Chuck if he does indeed organize a WOWODC-Down-Under - and it would > probably not be his first time drinking Chuck's beer either :-P > > On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Rich wrote: > >> >> I'd really love to come to Montreal for WOWODC 12, but it's a long way from >> New Zealand where I live and it's been a pretty tough year for us (we got >> caught up in the big earthquake in Christchurch which has set us back >> financially), so unfortunately it's not likely this year, but maybe joining >> the WOCommunity is an idea as I'll defiantly be looking at using WO for >> other stuff in the future. >> >> Not sure how to get you that beer (or two) from here, but if you have any >> suggestions (or fancy a trip to NZ) let me know - Otherwise maybe WOWODC 2013 >> >> Take care, and I really appreciate your help >> Rich >> >> On 13/03/2012, at 7:23 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >> >>> >>> On 2012-03-12, at 11:05 PM, Rich wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you so much Chuck, it's now working ..... pheew >>> >>> Excellent! >>> >>> >>>> Your insight and direction we're spot on. >>>> >>>> The problem was that early on when I setup the project I for some reason >>>> copied the ERExtension framework into the projects App folder to make sure >>>> it used that particular version, >>> >>> Ah.... that explains it. >>> >>> >>>> however as you suggested It wasn't building with the project (As I'd >>>> presumed it would) - I'm not very familiar with Eclipse and find it quite >>>> awkward to work with and work out what's going on - Kinda wish I could >>>> develop WebObjects from XCode ;o) >>> >>> Been there, done that, did not like it. :-) Though I will admit that >>> there are a LOT of variations to how you can set things up in Eclipse and >>> that can make deployment a confusing time. >>> >>> >>>> It seems so simple now, but I've been pulling my hair out - I'm so relived >>>> and if there is any way I could buy you a beer (or two or three I will >>>> (Let me know). >>> >>> I will suggest that you come to WOWODC this year, >>> http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc12/ >>> You can buy my a beer if you want to (I will drink it!) but even better you >>> can learn a ton and meet some really talented developers. A lot of us also >>> do iOS so you can also learn how others use that with WO and make some >>> great contacts and friends. And Montreal is an awesome city! >>> >>> >>>> I also just realized your the author of the Practical Webobjects book >>>> which will now be my next purchase >>> >>> Some things are a bit out of date (tools), but I hope you will find it >>> useful. >>> >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 13/03/2012, at 6:27 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 10:12 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ok, so my UNIX classpath is as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>>> # JVM == java >>>>>>> # JVMOptions == >>>>>>> # JDB == jdb >>>>>>> # JDBOptions == >>>>>>> # ApplicationClass == jaboo.proto.websvc.Application >>>>>>> >>>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/ >>>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/_jabooprotowebsvc.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/commons-codec-1.3.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/commons-httpclient-3.0.1.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Resources/Java/mysql-connector-java-5.1.13-bin.jar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOAccess.framework/Resources/Java/javaeoaccess.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOAccess.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaEOAccess.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOControl.framework/Resources/Java/javaeocontrol.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaEOControl.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaEOControl.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/Resources/Java/javafoundation.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaFoundation.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaFoundation.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework/Resources/Java/javajdbcadaptor.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaJDBCAdaptor.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaJDBCAdaptor.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/Resources/Java/javawebobjects.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaWebObjects.framework/WebServerResources/Java/JavaWebObjects.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaXML.framework/Resources/Java/javaxml.jar >>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks/JavaXML.framework/WebServerResources/Java/javaxml.jar >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, yes it is ERExtensions.framework (with and 's') >>>>>> BUT, there is no ERExtensions.jar file under the Resources/Java/ - No >>>>>> JAR file in under here at all (Just done a search) >>>>>> Just two further directories com & er with more files and >>>>>> sub-directories under them. >>>>> >>>>> I _think_ that might mean that you don't have the Wonder frameworks >>>>> installed (e.g. the built .framework versions, not the source projects). >>>>> See the bottom of >>>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WONDER/Getting+the+Wonder+Source+Code >>>>> and the installation instructions here: >>>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WO/Building+and+Installing+a+Framework+with+Ant >>>>> >>>>> Do that on your dev machine and rebuild the deployment bundle. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Resources folder has lots of files with .wo extensions though >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:59 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:50 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mmm, OK I've rebuilt and my Unix classPath is showing all APPROOT/xxx >>>>>>>> for the frameworks, however it DOESN"T have an entry for the >>>>>>>> ERXExtension framework in there - Should it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd hope so, that is where the ERXContext* classes live! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've defiantly got an ERXExtension.framework folder in my >>>>>>>> APPROOT/Frameworks folder >>>>>>> >>>>>>> EXExtensions with an S on the end, right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What is under that? Is there a Resources/Java/ERXExtensions.jar file? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just finishing fixing up the permissions and about to try and run it >>>>>>>> up again to see what happens >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is hoping... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:27 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:24 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll give that a try now, I didn't have all the check ticked. >>>>>>>>>> Also my Unix ClassPath (from you previous message) was showing a mix >>>>>>>>>> of locations for the frameworks, so hopefully this will sort that >>>>>>>>>> out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The ERExtensions one is the most critical right now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 5:19 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I meant all of the ones that your app is using, including the >>>>>>>>>>> WebObjects frameworks that it is using. The goal is one self >>>>>>>>>>> contained directory. There are not transitive dependancies between >>>>>>>>>>> frameworks so if a framework is NOT included in your application >>>>>>>>>>> project, then you don't need it. This should take care of it >>>>>>>>>>> automatically: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <PastedGraphic-9.pdf> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:15 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When you say "Embed the Framework (All of them)" you mean only the >>>>>>>>>>>> ones relevant to my App right? - or do you mean ALL of the Wonder >>>>>>>>>>>> frameworks >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2012, at 4:48 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 2012-03-12 à 23:29, Chuck Hill a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rich, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-12, at 8:09 PM, Rich wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my first post to this list, so apologies if my protocol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not correct, or I miss something. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not much of a worry about that around here, we don't bite. This >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not your average place on the Internet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been pulling my hair out for nearly a week now as I can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my WO application running on my Linux server. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deployment is almost always a source of frustration and anguish. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are not alone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am a Noobie to WebObjects (1st project), and developed a back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end web-service for an iPhone / iPad application prototype >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project I was contracted to do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The project is at the point of completion, and I've been trying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to make the WO application (Which runs just fine in Eclipse), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work on the deployment server so I can hand it over (The Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine is running in VMWare). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I have followed (several times), the 'Setup' and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Deployment' instructions on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WO/Deploying+on+Linux and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that I have everything deployed OK (Application and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frameworks). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will gently suggest that this is your first and root problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Embedding the frameworks (all of them!) in the Application can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid so very many headaches. And who likes a painful >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deployment? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 ! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I start up the WO application instance from the Java >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monitor it seems to launch OK - The application log seems to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no issues and states the URL and "Waiting for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requests...", it's just when I make a request (GET) just using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a browser, I don't get any response data - No error at all in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the browser, just an empty / blank page - I know I should be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting some data back as there's data to serve for the request. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be getting something back, even if just a short error >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The WO application is a fairly simple and has been based upon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ERRestRouteExample included with the ProjectWonder sources, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but as I said I know the application runs just fine if launched >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form Eclipse (with the Eclipse http engine). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got a suspicion it's something in my Apache setup, but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't for the life of me think / see what it is - I'm not even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use I need Apache as I don't need to serve any HTTP pages, just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JSON response data (Please correct me if I'm wrong) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not your Apache config. For a small site you don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> strictly need Apache. But when you get larger and want to run >>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple instances of your application to scale up, then you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want Apache (or something that helps to distribute the load, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is probably the easy, cheap option here). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know requests are getting through to the Linux server >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (checked with tcpdump), and I can see the request in the WO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application log with the following error, which I can't see to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find anywhere on the net. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2012-3-13 2:40:43 GMT+00:00] <WorkerThread14> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.InstantiationError: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: Unable to create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERXWOContext54 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that means (and yeah, it is freaking obscure) that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of Wonder that is on your dev machine is much older than >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is on the server. Check the size/date of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/erextensions.jar >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also check your app for code like: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> setContextClassName("ERXWOContext54"); >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.createContextForRequest(WOApplication.java:2039) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.createContextForRequest(ERXApplication.java:2083) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.handleActionRequestError(ERXApplication.java:1735) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOActionRequestHandler._handleRequest(WOActionRequestHandler.java:245) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(WOActionRequestHandler.java:158) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.java:126) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.dispatchRequest(WOApplication.java:1687) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequestImmediately(ERXApplication.java:2021) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequest(ERXApplication.java:1986) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.runOnce(WOWorkerThread.java:144) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.run(WOWorkerThread.java:226) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:636) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mar 13 02:40:43 Jaboo[2002] WARN NSLog - <WOWorkerThread >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> id=14 socket=null> Workerthread exiting due to error, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respawning with ID 10014... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "WorkerThread14" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [java.lang.InstantiationError] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: Unable to create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERXWOContext54:java.lang.InstantiationError: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaboo.proto.websvc.Application>: Unable to create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERXWOContext54 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've bypassed Apache and wotaskd and am just doing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DirectConnection (which I've enabled) to the application >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate any help of guidance on how to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshoot further.. as I'm about to lose what little hair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got left - my time is running out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warmest regards and a big hug to anyone who can help (please..) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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