Portugal can't use a single name. We have 4 types of monuments ( see here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011_in_Portugal).
We can create 4 "main categories", but they would still need to be under a "Cultural Heritage in Portugal" category. _____ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt> (351) 963 953 042 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.* On 2 August 2011 11:11, Kilian Kluge <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jane, > > in Germany the trouble is that in every state there are different names for > essentially the same thing. Some just have "Kulturdenkmale" (cultural > heritage monuments), some have "Baudenkmale" ("building heritage > monuments"), some have both, some differentiate between three or four > categories... It's already a bit confusing on de-wp, where as a result the > lists for each state have different naming schemes, and I doubt that it'd be > helpful to carry this to Commons. > > Kilian > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Jane Darnell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I am sending out a new message, since I feel this issue is pretty >> important and impacts a lot of Wikipedia projects. The other issues that Bas >> addressed also need follow up, but let's tackle these categories first. >> >> This is the list of categories as they stand today on Commons in the top >> level category (see the email from Bas): >> Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Andorra with known IDs >> Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Austria with known IDs >> Category:Onroerend erfgoed with known IDs >> Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Brussels with known IDs >> Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Estonia (with known IDs) >> Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Hesse with known ID >> Category:Rijksmonumenten with known IDs >> Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Portugal with known IDs >> Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Romania with known IDs >> Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Spain with known IDs >> Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Wallonia with known IDs >> >> I think only the Belgians and the Dutch have chosen their names well, >> because they are using the terms that are covered by law in their country. >> The other categories should be renamed to reflect the legal term in those >> countries. My reasons are as follows: >> 1) The term "Cultural heritage monument" is not defined anywhere, in any >> country's wikipedia. >> 2) We are using a formal designation that has been assigned by a >> government agency and is covered by the European Council's international law >> on cultural property. In order to refer to the proper designation, we need >> the formal name of the designation. >> 3) The sub categories are going to have native names anyway, so why have a >> strangely named top-level category that no one understands (including >> English-speakers)? >> 4) When we make interwiki links to these things we should be consistent >> across all countries. >> >> I noticed a confusing situation has already occurred in the German >> Wikipedia, where the top level category for the Austrian monuments is >> "Kategorie:Liste (Kulturdenkmale in Österreich)", when I fully expected it >> to be "Kategorie:Denkmalgeschütztes Objekte". On Commons I would expect >> "Category:Denkmalgeschütztes Objekte with known IDs", and in the English >> Wikipedia, I named it "Category:Denkmalgeschütztes Objekte". >> >> Jane >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >
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