Thank you for your and Ciell's comments! I have already reported the issue on Github <https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/340>. I hope it will be resolved fairly quickly, at least for the two people who have two photos left. So, can I close the first round and move on to the next one from the organiser's level even if there is still one photo left to vote on?
Warmest regards, *Ada Skirło* *Senior Technology Specialist* tel: +48 790 290 275 e-mail:[email protected] Support free knowledge! <https://wikimedia.pl/darowizny/> Make a donation to Wikipedia <https://wikimedia.pl/darowizny/> wikimedia.pl al. Szucha 16/15, 00-580 Warszawa, Polska <https://goo.gl/maps/R5LidcMYNs4T1qJv5> KRS 0000244732 NIP 728-25-97-388 Information on processing can be found in the Privacy Policy. Contact: [email protected] śr., 15 paź 2025 o 13:06 Giovanni Pennisi <[email protected]> napisał(a): > Hello there, > > Just following up to confirm that I’ve experienced the same issue > personally — I have one photo left to evaluate, and when I click “Vote,” it > goes to a blank (montage) page. This happened during Round 2 (961 - WLM > Sicily), and I believe I know the reason. > > I recently submitted a duplicate deletion request for a file that had > already passed Round 1, so that’s likely the one causing the issue. It’s > not a major problem — I’ll finish the round without evaluating that photo > (and then close it as the organizer). This aligns with what Ciell mentioned > in response to you, but yes, I can confirm the issue exists and might need > to be handled on the backend. > > > > Also, just a reminder that — from the organizer’s view — the “Voting > Detail” tab still appears empty, with no graphs showing. > > > > Best regards, > > GiovanniPen > > > > Il 15/10/2025 09:55 Ada Skirło via WikiLovesMonuments ha scritto: > > Hi! > In Poland, we also have a problem that significantly hinders our selection > process. > Out of 25 people voting, nine had the programme freeze on the last or > penultimate photo. Refreshing, clearing cookies or logging in again in a > different browser (which helped when the programme froze in the middle of > voting) does not work. > Do you have any advice? What can we do to finish this and move on to the > next round of voting? > > Warmest regards, > > > > *Ada Skirło* > > > > *Senior Technology Specialist* > > > > tel: +48 790 290 275 > > e-mail:[email protected] > > > > > Support free knowledge! <https://wikimedia.pl/darowizny/> > > Make a donation to Wikipedia <https://wikimedia.pl/darowizny/> > > wikimedia.pl > > al. Szucha 16/15, 00-580 Warszawa, Polska > <https://goo.gl/maps/R5LidcMYNs4T1qJv5> > > KRS 0000244732 > > NIP 728-25-97-388 > > Information on processing can be found in the Privacy Policy. Contact: > [email protected] > > śr., 8 paź 2025 o 16:21 Alexander Tsirlin <[email protected]> > napisał(a): > > Dear Lodewijk, > > Thank you. Also in personal capacity, I can only say that further tests > of Montage are not my priority at the moment, because I have a round of > over 20000 images to complete, with Montage or without. > > best, > Alexander > > > On 08-Oct-25 17:25, effe iets anders wrote: > > Thanks Alexander, > > > > This has been helpful, and I've tried to make them as reproducible > > as possible to make fixing them easier. Montage is driven by volunteer > > developers though, and unfortunately both active developers have > > currently a lot going on - we hope to get some of the low hanging fruit > > out of the way - but it's not possible to make a hard commitment. >From > > what I understand, we expect some improvements to happen over the next > > weeks. Nobody likes this situation, but it's also a reality of open > > source volunteer-driven development. I understand that this is > > disappointing. > > > > There are currently two things people can do to help: > > * Help find the reproduction steps: if the developer knows exactly which > > set of steps to perform to find the bug, that helps them a lot and saves > > a lot of time in searching. We have a beta-version of the platform in > > parallel, which you could use to test out these issues in more detail, > > if you're interested. It might be the case that some of the experiences > > you're having an interaction with the fact that you have very big > > campaigns. If we know that something is a problem with a campaign of > > 10000 images, but the same juror does not have this problem with 100 > > images, that is incredibly helpful in finding the root cause. > > * If there are other developers that want to help out, I would encourage > > them to reach out (see GitHub <https://github.com/hatnote/montage>). > > > > It is also helpful that you're indicating which issues are the biggest > > problems, this does help with prioritization. > > > > Best, > > Lodewijk > > (writing this in a personal capacity - just doing my best to help out!) > > > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 1:02 AM Alexander Tsirlin <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Dear Ciell and all, > > > > In the last days, we submitted two new bug reports (#330 and 331). > > Regrettably, there was no response, nor was there any visible > activity > > on the previous ones. Even their priorities were not assigned. For > > example, it is dismaying to see that the voting statistics (#325) > > has no > > priority. > > > > What makes things worse is that the two last bug reports are not > about > > mere inconveniences in the grading process. They basically make the > > grading impossible, at least within our campaign #965. We are not > sure > > what causes these issues and why they were not seen before. With > 20000+ > > images, the campaign is quite big compared to any of the WLE > campaigns, > > and these critical issues started to appear after a few thousands of > > images have been voted. However, we could certainly handle over 20000 > > images before. The inability to do it now is truly discouraging. > > > > Therefore, I would like to ask again on the concrete timeline for > > addressing these issues. We need a clear perspective. Otherwise, we > > will > > have to search for alternative solutions, because Montage (in its > > current version) is unusable at the moment, at least for us. > > > > Thank you in advance, > > Alexander > > > > > > > > On 05-Oct-25 18:03, Ciell Wikipedia wrote: > > > Thanks for submitting the issues in Github both! > > > It's interesting that these did not surface in previous Montage > > > campaigns we had this year. Since the new front-end, and the > > backend > > > update, we already had Wiki Loves Folklore, Wiki Loves Earth and > > Wiki > > > Loves Africa, plus several smaller photo competitions that use > > the tool > > > for their jury process. The developers are now accessing the > > cause of > > > these errors, and will follow up accordingly. > > > > > > Best, > > > Ciell > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > *If you're born a lion, don't bother trying to act tame * > > > > > > > > > Op za 4 okt 2025 om 14:59 schreef Giovanni Pennisi > > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>>: > > > > > > Hello, > > > one of my collaborator (for WLM in Sicily) added a report on > > GitHub > > > aswell (https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327 > > <https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327> <https:// > > > github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327 <http://github.com/hatnote/ > > montage/issues/327>>). > > > > > > I'm writing here to follow up for the point number 3 and 4: > > > > > > 3. About the "previous votes editing" it is true that you can > > only see > > > 15 images; ok for performance reason but I'd expect or a > > "load more" > > > button or multiple pages scrolling. Maybe a bit related, > > sometimes it > > > says also "thank you, you voted the full set" while it is not > > true or > > > the loading is delayed. > > > > > > 4. Interface errors – keyboard voting causes UI jumping (When > > voting > > > with the keyboard arrows, the interface jumps up and down > > > continuously): > > > as you know, is possible to accept or decline an image also > > with up or > > > down arrow; without a large screen, the page (especially the > > right > > > column with informations) will not be fully displayed but > > will have a > > > scroll bar, so when pressing the arrows (especially if you > > alternative > > > upvote and decline) the content will move up and down. > > > > > > Both Antonino (who submitted the issue on GitHub) and I have > > already > > > completed round one, so we're unable to record a video to > > demonstrate > > > the (minor) issue. > > > > > > As the campaign coordinator, I'd also like to point out that > the > > > "Voting > > > Details" tab is empty and does not display the pie chart with > > the votes. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Giovanni Pennisi (User:GiovanniPen) > > > > > > > > > Il 04/10/2025 02:24 Alexander Tsirlin ha scritto: > > > > Dear Ciell, > > > > > > > > Thank you. I created 8 bug reports on Github. When can we > > expect > > > them > > > > to be addressed? > > > > > > > > best, > > > > Alexander > > > > > > > > > > > > On 04-Oct-25 2:29, Ciell Wikipedia wrote: > > > >> Hi Alexander, > > > >> > > > >> The new frontend was implemented in March 2025, and has > > several new > > > >> features as the favorite-button, and a translatable > > interface. The > > > >> backend also received an update, in December 2024. The > > best way to > > > >> reach our developers for your Montage bug reports is > > through this > > > >> Github page: https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues > > <https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues> <https:// > > > github.com/hatnote/montage/issues <http://github.com/hatnote/ > > montage/issues>> > > > >> <https://github.com/hatnote/ <https://github.com/hatnote/ > > > <https://github.com/hatnote/ <https://github.com/hatnote/>> > > > montage/issues> > > > >> > > > >> Best, > > > >> Ciell > > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> *If you're born a lion, don't bother trying to act tame * > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Op vr 3 okt 2025 om 16:53 schreef Alexander Tsirlin > > > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>: > > > >> > > > >> Hello! > > > >> > > > >> The interface of Montage has changed this year, and > > many of > > > these > > > >> changes are mediocre, as our jurors report: > > > >> > > > >> 1. 'Skip' button does not put the photo in the end of > > the line. > > > >> Instead, > > > >> the same photo is displayed again after 2-3 other > photos. > > > >> Effectively, > > > >> there is no way to leave a photo for later > > consideration, so > > > the > > > >> 'Skip' > > > >> button is not useful any more. > > > >> > > > >> 2. 'Edit previous photos' can not be opened in a > separate > > > tab in > > > >> the > > > >> browser. One has to open it in the same tab, then > > return to the > > > >> voting, > > > >> and wait until it loads. That's very annoying. > > Moreover, a > > > >> misleading > > > >> message 'All done! You voted on all photos...' appears > > > during the > > > >> loading. > > > >> > > > >> 3. The 'Edit votes' window no longer contains links > > to the > > > images. > > > >> Once > > > >> you vote on an image, you can't open it in full size > > any more. > > > >> > > > >> 4. 'Edit previous photos' window loads very slowly, > > > sometimes it > > > >> loads > > > >> the last 15 photos only. That was not the case in the > > past. > > > >> > > > >> 5. The threshold value for the image resolution can > > not be set > > > >> during > > > >> the import. The default value of 2 MP is used > implicitly. > > > >> > > > >> 6. Importing images produces an optimistic message > 'Round > > > >> successfully > > > >> created', along with an empty round that returns an > > error upon > > > >> pressing > > > >> the 'Activate' button. Only after a delay of 2-3 min > > do the > > > photos > > > >> appear, but during this period it's impossible to see > if > > > they are > > > >> being > > > >> imported, or an error occurred during the import. > > > >> > > > >> What is the best way to reach the current developer of > > > Montage and > > > >> get > > > >> these things fixed on a short notice? Ideally, I > > would ask to > > > >> bring > > > >> back > > > >> the old interface, because it worked much better than > the > > > current > > > >> one. > > > >> In fact, I did not notice any improvements in the new > > > interface. > > > >> All > > > >> the > > > >> old bugs (incomprehensible errors during import, error > > > messages on > > > >> deleting the round, etc.) are still there, so the > > benefits > > > of the > > > >> new > > > >> interface are not entirely clear to me at this point. > > > >> > > > >> Thank you in advance! > > > >> > > > >> best, > > > >> Alexander > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> WikiLovesMonuments mailing list -- > > > >> [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>> > > > >> Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > > 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