Hi! In Poland, we also have a problem that significantly hinders our selection process. Out of 25 people voting, nine had the programme freeze on the last or penultimate photo. Refreshing, clearing cookies or logging in again in a different browser (which helped when the programme froze in the middle of voting) does not work. Do you have any advice? What can we do to finish this and move on to the next round of voting?
Warmest regards, *Ada Skirło* *Senior Technology Specialist* tel: +48 790 290 275 e-mail:[email protected] Support free knowledge! <https://wikimedia.pl/darowizny/> Make a donation to Wikipedia <https://wikimedia.pl/darowizny/> wikimedia.pl al. Szucha 16/15, 00-580 Warszawa, Polska <https://goo.gl/maps/R5LidcMYNs4T1qJv5> KRS 0000244732 NIP 728-25-97-388 Information on processing can be found in the Privacy Policy. Contact: [email protected] śr., 8 paź 2025 o 16:21 Alexander Tsirlin <[email protected]> napisał(a): > Dear Lodewijk, > > Thank you. Also in personal capacity, I can only say that further tests > of Montage are not my priority at the moment, because I have a round of > over 20000 images to complete, with Montage or without. > > best, > Alexander > > > On 08-Oct-25 17:25, effe iets anders wrote: > > Thanks Alexander, > > > > This has been helpful, and I've tried to make them as reproducible > > as possible to make fixing them easier. Montage is driven by volunteer > > developers though, and unfortunately both active developers have > > currently a lot going on - we hope to get some of the low hanging fruit > > out of the way - but it's not possible to make a hard commitment. From > > what I understand, we expect some improvements to happen over the next > > weeks. Nobody likes this situation, but it's also a reality of open > > source volunteer-driven development. I understand that this is > > disappointing. > > > > There are currently two things people can do to help: > > * Help find the reproduction steps: if the developer knows exactly which > > set of steps to perform to find the bug, that helps them a lot and saves > > a lot of time in searching. We have a beta-version of the platform in > > parallel, which you could use to test out these issues in more detail, > > if you're interested. It might be the case that some of the experiences > > you're having an interaction with the fact that you have very big > > campaigns. If we know that something is a problem with a campaign of > > 10000 images, but the same juror does not have this problem with 100 > > images, that is incredibly helpful in finding the root cause. > > * If there are other developers that want to help out, I would encourage > > them to reach out (see GitHub <https://github.com/hatnote/montage>). > > > > It is also helpful that you're indicating which issues are the biggest > > problems, this does help with prioritization. > > > > Best, > > Lodewijk > > (writing this in a personal capacity - just doing my best to help out!) > > > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 1:02 AM Alexander Tsirlin <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Dear Ciell and all, > > > > In the last days, we submitted two new bug reports (#330 and 331). > > Regrettably, there was no response, nor was there any visible > activity > > on the previous ones. Even their priorities were not assigned. For > > example, it is dismaying to see that the voting statistics (#325) > > has no > > priority. > > > > What makes things worse is that the two last bug reports are not > about > > mere inconveniences in the grading process. They basically make the > > grading impossible, at least within our campaign #965. We are not > sure > > what causes these issues and why they were not seen before. With > 20000+ > > images, the campaign is quite big compared to any of the WLE > campaigns, > > and these critical issues started to appear after a few thousands of > > images have been voted. However, we could certainly handle over 20000 > > images before. The inability to do it now is truly discouraging. > > > > Therefore, I would like to ask again on the concrete timeline for > > addressing these issues. We need a clear perspective. Otherwise, we > > will > > have to search for alternative solutions, because Montage (in its > > current version) is unusable at the moment, at least for us. > > > > Thank you in advance, > > Alexander > > > > > > > > On 05-Oct-25 18:03, Ciell Wikipedia wrote: > > > Thanks for submitting the issues in Github both! > > > It's interesting that these did not surface in previous Montage > > > campaigns we had this year. Since the new front-end, and the > > backend > > > update, we already had Wiki Loves Folklore, Wiki Loves Earth and > > Wiki > > > Loves Africa, plus several smaller photo competitions that use > > the tool > > > for their jury process. The developers are now accessing the > > cause of > > > these errors, and will follow up accordingly. > > > > > > Best, > > > Ciell > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > *If you're born a lion, don't bother trying to act tame * > > > > > > > > > Op za 4 okt 2025 om 14:59 schreef Giovanni Pennisi > > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>>: > > > > > > Hello, > > > one of my collaborator (for WLM in Sicily) added a report on > > GitHub > > > aswell (https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327 > > <https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327> <https:// > > > github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327 <http://github.com/hatnote/ > > montage/issues/327>>). > > > > > > I'm writing here to follow up for the point number 3 and 4: > > > > > > 3. About the "previous votes editing" it is true that you can > > only see > > > 15 images; ok for performance reason but I'd expect or a > > "load more" > > > button or multiple pages scrolling. Maybe a bit related, > > sometimes it > > > says also "thank you, you voted the full set" while it is not > > true or > > > the loading is delayed. > > > > > > 4. Interface errors – keyboard voting causes UI jumping (When > > voting > > > with the keyboard arrows, the interface jumps up and down > > > continuously): > > > as you know, is possible to accept or decline an image also > > with up or > > > down arrow; without a large screen, the page (especially the > > right > > > column with informations) will not be fully displayed but > > will have a > > > scroll bar, so when pressing the arrows (especially if you > > alternative > > > upvote and decline) the content will move up and down. > > > > > > Both Antonino (who submitted the issue on GitHub) and I have > > already > > > completed round one, so we're unable to record a video to > > demonstrate > > > the (minor) issue. > > > > > > As the campaign coordinator, I'd also like to point out that > the > > > "Voting > > > Details" tab is empty and does not display the pie chart with > > the votes. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Giovanni Pennisi (User:GiovanniPen) > > > > > > > > > Il 04/10/2025 02:24 Alexander Tsirlin ha scritto: > > > > Dear Ciell, > > > > > > > > Thank you. I created 8 bug reports on Github. When can we > > expect > > > them > > > > to be addressed? > > > > > > > > best, > > > > Alexander > > > > > > > > > > > > On 04-Oct-25 2:29, Ciell Wikipedia wrote: > > > >> Hi Alexander, > > > >> > > > >> The new frontend was implemented in March 2025, and has > > several new > > > >> features as the favorite-button, and a translatable > > interface. The > > > >> backend also received an update, in December 2024. The > > best way to > > > >> reach our developers for your Montage bug reports is > > through this > > > >> Github page: https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues > > <https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues> <https:// > > > github.com/hatnote/montage/issues <http://github.com/hatnote/ > > montage/issues>> > > > >> <https://github.com/hatnote/ <https://github.com/hatnote/ > > > <https://github.com/hatnote/ <https://github.com/hatnote/>> > > > montage/issues> > > > >> > > > >> Best, > > > >> Ciell > > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> *If you're born a lion, don't bother trying to act tame * > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Op vr 3 okt 2025 om 16:53 schreef Alexander Tsirlin > > > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>: > > > >> > > > >> Hello! > > > >> > > > >> The interface of Montage has changed this year, and > > many of > > > these > > > >> changes are mediocre, as our jurors report: > > > >> > > > >> 1. 'Skip' button does not put the photo in the end of > > the line. > > > >> Instead, > > > >> the same photo is displayed again after 2-3 other > photos. > > > >> Effectively, > > > >> there is no way to leave a photo for later > > consideration, so > > > the > > > >> 'Skip' > > > >> button is not useful any more. > > > >> > > > >> 2. 'Edit previous photos' can not be opened in a > separate > > > tab in > > > >> the > > > >> browser. One has to open it in the same tab, then > > return to the > > > >> voting, > > > >> and wait until it loads. That's very annoying. > > Moreover, a > > > >> misleading > > > >> message 'All done! You voted on all photos...' appears > > > during the > > > >> loading. > > > >> > > > >> 3. The 'Edit votes' window no longer contains links > > to the > > > images. > > > >> Once > > > >> you vote on an image, you can't open it in full size > > any more. > > > >> > > > >> 4. 'Edit previous photos' window loads very slowly, > > > sometimes it > > > >> loads > > > >> the last 15 photos only. That was not the case in the > > past. > > > >> > > > >> 5. The threshold value for the image resolution can > > not be set > > > >> during > > > >> the import. The default value of 2 MP is used > implicitly. > > > >> > > > >> 6. Importing images produces an optimistic message > 'Round > > > >> successfully > > > >> created', along with an empty round that returns an > > error upon > > > >> pressing > > > >> the 'Activate' button. Only after a delay of 2-3 min > > do the > > > photos > > > >> appear, but during this period it's impossible to see > if > > > they are > > > >> being > > > >> imported, or an error occurred during the import. > > > >> > > > >> What is the best way to reach the current developer of > > > Montage and > > > >> get > > > >> these things fixed on a short notice? Ideally, I > > would ask to > > > >> bring > > > >> back > > > >> the old interface, because it worked much better than > the > > > current > > > >> one. > > > >> In fact, I did not notice any improvements in the new > > > interface. > > > >> All > > > >> the > > > >> old bugs (incomprehensible errors during import, error > > > messages on > > > >> deleting the round, etc.) are still there, so the > > benefits > > > of the > > > >> new > > > >> interface are not entirely clear to me at this point. > > > >> > > > >> Thank you in advance! > > > >> > > > >> best, > > > >> Alexander > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> WikiLovesMonuments mailing list -- > > > >> [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>> > > > >> Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > > 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