Thanks Alexander,
This has been helpful, and I've tried to make them as reproducible
as possible to make fixing them easier. Montage is driven by volunteer
developers though, and unfortunately both active developers have
currently a lot going on - we hope to get some of the low hanging fruit
out of the way - but it's not possible to make a hard commitment. From
what I understand, we expect some improvements to happen over the next
weeks. Nobody likes this situation, but it's also a reality of open
source volunteer-driven development. I understand that this is
disappointing.
There are currently two things people can do to help:
* Help find the reproduction steps: if the developer knows exactly which
set of steps to perform to find the bug, that helps them a lot and saves
a lot of time in searching. We have a beta-version of the platform in
parallel, which you could use to test out these issues in more detail,
if you're interested. It might be the case that some of the experiences
you're having an interaction with the fact that you have very big
campaigns. If we know that something is a problem with a campaign of
10000 images, but the same juror does not have this problem with 100
images, that is incredibly helpful in finding the root cause.
* If there are other developers that want to help out, I would encourage
them to reach out (see GitHub <https://github.com/hatnote/montage>).
It is also helpful that you're indicating which issues are the biggest
problems, this does help with prioritization.
Best,
Lodewijk
(writing this in a personal capacity - just doing my best to help out!)
On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 1:02 AM Alexander Tsirlin <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Ciell and all,
In the last days, we submitted two new bug reports (#330 and 331).
Regrettably, there was no response, nor was there any visible activity
on the previous ones. Even their priorities were not assigned. For
example, it is dismaying to see that the voting statistics (#325)
has no
priority.
What makes things worse is that the two last bug reports are not about
mere inconveniences in the grading process. They basically make the
grading impossible, at least within our campaign #965. We are not sure
what causes these issues and why they were not seen before. With 20000+
images, the campaign is quite big compared to any of the WLE campaigns,
and these critical issues started to appear after a few thousands of
images have been voted. However, we could certainly handle over 20000
images before. The inability to do it now is truly discouraging.
Therefore, I would like to ask again on the concrete timeline for
addressing these issues. We need a clear perspective. Otherwise, we
will
have to search for alternative solutions, because Montage (in its
current version) is unusable at the moment, at least for us.
Thank you in advance,
Alexander
On 05-Oct-25 18:03, Ciell Wikipedia wrote:
> Thanks for submitting the issues in Github both!
> It's interesting that these did not surface in previous Montage
> campaigns we had this year. Since the new front-end, and the
backend
> update, we already had Wiki Loves Folklore, Wiki Loves Earth and
Wiki
> Loves Africa, plus several smaller photo competitions that use
the tool
> for their jury process. The developers are now accessing the
cause of
> these errors, and will follow up accordingly.
>
> Best,
> Ciell
>
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> Op za 4 okt 2025 om 14:59 schreef Giovanni Pennisi
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>>:
>
> Hello,
> one of my collaborator (for WLM in Sicily) added a report on
GitHub
> aswell (https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327
<https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327> <https://
> github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327 <http://github.com/hatnote/
montage/issues/327>>).
>
> I'm writing here to follow up for the point number 3 and 4:
>
> 3. About the "previous votes editing" it is true that you can
only see
> 15 images; ok for performance reason but I'd expect or a
"load more"
> button or multiple pages scrolling. Maybe a bit related,
sometimes it
> says also "thank you, you voted the full set" while it is not
true or
> the loading is delayed.
>
> 4. Interface errors – keyboard voting causes UI jumping (When
voting
> with the keyboard arrows, the interface jumps up and down
> continuously):
> as you know, is possible to accept or decline an image also
with up or
> down arrow; without a large screen, the page (especially the
right
> column with informations) will not be fully displayed but
will have a
> scroll bar, so when pressing the arrows (especially if you
alternative
> upvote and decline) the content will move up and down.
>
> Both Antonino (who submitted the issue on GitHub) and I have
already
> completed round one, so we're unable to record a video to
demonstrate
> the (minor) issue.
>
> As the campaign coordinator, I'd also like to point out that the
> "Voting
> Details" tab is empty and does not display the pie chart with
the votes.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Giovanni Pennisi (User:GiovanniPen)
>
>
> Il 04/10/2025 02:24 Alexander Tsirlin ha scritto:
> > Dear Ciell,
> >
> > Thank you. I created 8 bug reports on Github. When can we
expect
> them
> > to be addressed?
> >
> > best,
> > Alexander
> >
> >
> > On 04-Oct-25 2:29, Ciell Wikipedia wrote:
> >> Hi Alexander,
> >>
> >> The new frontend was implemented in March 2025, and has
several new
> >> features as the favorite-button, and a translatable
interface. The
> >> backend also received an update, in December 2024. The
best way to
> >> reach our developers for your Montage bug reports is
through this
> >> Github page: https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues
<https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues> <https://
> github.com/hatnote/montage/issues <http://github.com/hatnote/
montage/issues>>
> >> <https://github.com/hatnote/ <https://github.com/hatnote/
> <https://github.com/hatnote/ <https://github.com/hatnote/>>
> montage/issues>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Ciell
> >>
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> >>
> >> Op vr 3 okt 2025 om 16:53 schreef Alexander Tsirlin
> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>:
> >>
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> The interface of Montage has changed this year, and
many of
> these
> >> changes are mediocre, as our jurors report:
> >>
> >> 1. 'Skip' button does not put the photo in the end of
the line.
> >> Instead,
> >> the same photo is displayed again after 2-3 other photos.
> >> Effectively,
> >> there is no way to leave a photo for later
consideration, so
> the
> >> 'Skip'
> >> button is not useful any more.
> >>
> >> 2. 'Edit previous photos' can not be opened in a separate
> tab in
> >> the
> >> browser. One has to open it in the same tab, then
return to the
> >> voting,
> >> and wait until it loads. That's very annoying.
Moreover, a
> >> misleading
> >> message 'All done! You voted on all photos...' appears
> during the
> >> loading.
> >>
> >> 3. The 'Edit votes' window no longer contains links
to the
> images.
> >> Once
> >> you vote on an image, you can't open it in full size
any more.
> >>
> >> 4. 'Edit previous photos' window loads very slowly,
> sometimes it
> >> loads
> >> the last 15 photos only. That was not the case in the
past.
> >>
> >> 5. The threshold value for the image resolution can
not be set
> >> during
> >> the import. The default value of 2 MP is used implicitly.
> >>
> >> 6. Importing images produces an optimistic message 'Round
> >> successfully
> >> created', along with an empty round that returns an
error upon
> >> pressing
> >> the 'Activate' button. Only after a delay of 2-3 min
do the
> photos
> >> appear, but during this period it's impossible to see if
> they are
> >> being
> >> imported, or an error occurred during the import.
> >>
> >> What is the best way to reach the current developer of
> Montage and
> >> get
> >> these things fixed on a short notice? Ideally, I
would ask to
> >> bring
> >> back
> >> the old interface, because it worked much better than the
> current
> >> one.
> >> In fact, I did not notice any improvements in the new
> interface.
> >> All
> >> the
> >> old bugs (incomprehensible errors during import, error
> messages on
> >> deleting the round, etc.) are still there, so the
benefits
> of the
> >> new
> >> interface are not entirely clear to me at this point.
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance!
> >>
> >> best,
> >> Alexander
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