Thanks Alexander, This has been helpful, and I've tried to make them as reproducible as possible to make fixing them easier. Montage is driven by volunteer developers though, and unfortunately both active developers have currently a lot going on - we hope to get some of the low hanging fruit out of the way - but it's not possible to make a hard commitment. From what I understand, we expect some improvements to happen over the next weeks. Nobody likes this situation, but it's also a reality of open source volunteer-driven development. I understand that this is disappointing.
There are currently two things people can do to help: * Help find the reproduction steps: if the developer knows exactly which set of steps to perform to find the bug, that helps them a lot and saves a lot of time in searching. We have a beta-version of the platform in parallel, which you could use to test out these issues in more detail, if you're interested. It might be the case that some of the experiences you're having an interaction with the fact that you have very big campaigns. If we know that something is a problem with a campaign of 10000 images, but the same juror does not have this problem with 100 images, that is incredibly helpful in finding the root cause. * If there are other developers that want to help out, I would encourage them to reach out (see GitHub <https://github.com/hatnote/montage>). It is also helpful that you're indicating which issues are the biggest problems, this does help with prioritization. Best, Lodewijk (writing this in a personal capacity - just doing my best to help out!) On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 1:02 AM Alexander Tsirlin <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Ciell and all, > > In the last days, we submitted two new bug reports (#330 and 331). > Regrettably, there was no response, nor was there any visible activity > on the previous ones. Even their priorities were not assigned. For > example, it is dismaying to see that the voting statistics (#325) has no > priority. > > What makes things worse is that the two last bug reports are not about > mere inconveniences in the grading process. They basically make the > grading impossible, at least within our campaign #965. We are not sure > what causes these issues and why they were not seen before. With 20000+ > images, the campaign is quite big compared to any of the WLE campaigns, > and these critical issues started to appear after a few thousands of > images have been voted. However, we could certainly handle over 20000 > images before. The inability to do it now is truly discouraging. > > Therefore, I would like to ask again on the concrete timeline for > addressing these issues. We need a clear perspective. Otherwise, we will > have to search for alternative solutions, because Montage (in its > current version) is unusable at the moment, at least for us. > > Thank you in advance, > Alexander > > > > On 05-Oct-25 18:03, Ciell Wikipedia wrote: > > Thanks for submitting the issues in Github both! > > It's interesting that these did not surface in previous Montage > > campaigns we had this year. Since the new front-end, and the backend > > update, we already had Wiki Loves Folklore, Wiki Loves Earth and Wiki > > Loves Africa, plus several smaller photo competitions that use the tool > > for their jury process. The developers are now accessing the cause of > > these errors, and will follow up accordingly. > > > > Best, > > Ciell > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *If you're born a lion, don't bother trying to act tame * > > > > > > Op za 4 okt 2025 om 14:59 schreef Giovanni Pennisi > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > > > Hello, > > one of my collaborator (for WLM in Sicily) added a report on GitHub > > aswell (https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327 <https:// > > github.com/hatnote/montage/issues/327>). > > > > I'm writing here to follow up for the point number 3 and 4: > > > > 3. About the "previous votes editing" it is true that you can only > see > > 15 images; ok for performance reason but I'd expect or a "load more" > > button or multiple pages scrolling. Maybe a bit related, sometimes it > > says also "thank you, you voted the full set" while it is not true or > > the loading is delayed. > > > > 4. Interface errors – keyboard voting causes UI jumping (When voting > > with the keyboard arrows, the interface jumps up and down > > continuously): > > as you know, is possible to accept or decline an image also with up > or > > down arrow; without a large screen, the page (especially the right > > column with informations) will not be fully displayed but will have a > > scroll bar, so when pressing the arrows (especially if you > alternative > > upvote and decline) the content will move up and down. > > > > Both Antonino (who submitted the issue on GitHub) and I have already > > completed round one, so we're unable to record a video to demonstrate > > the (minor) issue. > > > > As the campaign coordinator, I'd also like to point out that the > > "Voting > > Details" tab is empty and does not display the pie chart with the > votes. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Giovanni Pennisi (User:GiovanniPen) > > > > > > Il 04/10/2025 02:24 Alexander Tsirlin ha scritto: > > > Dear Ciell, > > > > > > Thank you. I created 8 bug reports on Github. When can we expect > > them > > > to be addressed? > > > > > > best, > > > Alexander > > > > > > > > > On 04-Oct-25 2:29, Ciell Wikipedia wrote: > > >> Hi Alexander, > > >> > > >> The new frontend was implemented in March 2025, and has several > new > > >> features as the favorite-button, and a translatable interface. > The > > >> backend also received an update, in December 2024. The best way > to > > >> reach our developers for your Montage bug reports is through this > > >> Github page: https://github.com/hatnote/montage/issues <https:// > > github.com/hatnote/montage/issues> > > >> <https://github.com/hatnote/ <https://github.com/hatnote/> > > montage/issues> > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> Ciell > > >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> *If you're born a lion, don't bother trying to act tame * > > >> > > >> > > >> Op vr 3 okt 2025 om 16:53 schreef Alexander Tsirlin > > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>: > > >> > > >> Hello! > > >> > > >> The interface of Montage has changed this year, and many of > > these > > >> changes are mediocre, as our jurors report: > > >> > > >> 1. 'Skip' button does not put the photo in the end of the > line. > > >> Instead, > > >> the same photo is displayed again after 2-3 other photos. > > >> Effectively, > > >> there is no way to leave a photo for later consideration, so > > the > > >> 'Skip' > > >> button is not useful any more. > > >> > > >> 2. 'Edit previous photos' can not be opened in a separate > > tab in > > >> the > > >> browser. One has to open it in the same tab, then return to > the > > >> voting, > > >> and wait until it loads. That's very annoying. Moreover, a > > >> misleading > > >> message 'All done! You voted on all photos...' appears > > during the > > >> loading. > > >> > > >> 3. The 'Edit votes' window no longer contains links to the > > images. > > >> Once > > >> you vote on an image, you can't open it in full size any > more. > > >> > > >> 4. 'Edit previous photos' window loads very slowly, > > sometimes it > > >> loads > > >> the last 15 photos only. That was not the case in the past. > > >> > > >> 5. The threshold value for the image resolution can not be > set > > >> during > > >> the import. The default value of 2 MP is used implicitly. > > >> > > >> 6. Importing images produces an optimistic message 'Round > > >> successfully > > >> created', along with an empty round that returns an error > upon > > >> pressing > > >> the 'Activate' button. Only after a delay of 2-3 min do the > > photos > > >> appear, but during this period it's impossible to see if > > they are > > >> being > > >> imported, or an error occurred during the import. > > >> > > >> What is the best way to reach the current developer of > > Montage and > > >> get > > >> these things fixed on a short notice? Ideally, I would ask to > > >> bring > > >> back > > >> the old interface, because it worked much better than the > > current > > >> one. > > >> In fact, I did not notice any improvements in the new > > interface. > > >> All > > >> the > > >> old bugs (incomprehensible errors during import, error > > messages on > > >> deleting the round, etc.) are still there, so the benefits > > of the > > >> new > > >> interface are not entirely clear to me at this point. > > >> > > >> Thank you in advance! > > >> > > >> best, > > >> Alexander > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> WikiLovesMonuments mailing list -- > > >> [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > >> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > >> Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/ > > list/ <https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/> > > >> [email protected]/message/ <http:// > > [email protected]/message/> > > >> NOJZICGDAVPNC37U5Y5C7GUTFITUUBBE/ <https:// > > lists.wikimedia.org/ <https://lists.wikimedia.org/> > > >> hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > message/ <http://[email protected]/message/> > > >> NOJZICGDAVPNC37U5Y5C7GUTFITUUBBE/> > > >> > > >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org <http:// > > www.wikilovesmonuments.org> > > >> <http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org <http:// > > www.wikilovesmonuments.org>> > > >> > > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google > > >> Groups "WLX jury" group. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > > it, send > > >> an email to [email protected] > > <mailto:wlxru-jury%[email protected]> <mailto:wlxru- > > <mailto:wlxru-> > > >> [email protected] > > <mailto:jury%[email protected]>>. > > >> To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ > > wlxru- <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wlxru-> > > >> jury/ > > >> > > CAGarBBe59mu%2Bh2Q_XfTci0BSCn64Ro%2BY9JqsthKr%3D_cfY%3DP2jQ% > 40mail.gmail.com <http://40mail.gmail.com> > > >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wlxru-jury/ > > CAGarBBe59mu%2Bh2Q_XfTci0BSCn64Ro%2BY9JqsthKr%3D_cfY%3DP2jQ% > 40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wlxru-jury/CAGarBBe59mu%2Bh2Q_XfTci0BSCn64Ro%2BY9JqsthKr%3D_cfY%3DP2jQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > >>. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > WikiLovesMonuments mailing list -- > > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > Public archives at > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/ > > [email protected]/message/ > > HN2FMGVBTF3E5HO5QXCOYE6P2I6H6XCG/ <https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > > hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/ > > HN2FMGVBTF3E5HO5QXCOYE6P2I6H6XCG/> > > > > > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org < > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org> > > > > > > Giovanni Pennisi > > _______________________________________________ > > WikiLovesMonuments mailing list -- > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/ > > [email protected]/message/ > > JH3CQ6WKLHD55TFERF2I3AJB25YF4AJT/ <https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > > hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/ > > JH3CQ6WKLHD55TFERF2I3AJB25YF4AJT/> > > > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org <http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "WLX jury" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > an email to [email protected] <mailto:wlxru- > > [email protected]>. > > To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wlxru- > > jury/CAGarBBdNJhigW- > > QjaFwMR6LXK4%3D3QwFVneq%3Df%2Ba3%3D7kKgX-6OA%40mail.gmail.com <https:// > > groups.google.com/d/msgid/wlxru-jury/CAGarBBdNJhigW- > > QjaFwMR6LXK4%3D3QwFVneq%3Df%2Ba3%3D7kKgX-6OA%40mail.gmail.com? > > utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > _______________________________________________ > WikiLovesMonuments mailing list -- [email protected] > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/2CU27I4KHPDOLEMDJKFLCREESDSWHA4O/ > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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