Before making a decision on this, I suggest to conduct a survey among
existing Marathi wikipedians.

We cannot enforce a typing scheme on newbies when we are not getting enough
contributes to Marathi wikipedia. Even the latest report shows Marathi
wikipedia has just 47 active contributors. If transliteration is brining in
more new users  please go for that. If Inscript is brining in more new
users use that.  I am not sure how many of the existing users are using
InScript. So make a decision based on the typing habit of existing users
and potential new users.

The aim should be bringing in more Marathi speakers to marathi wiki.




2011/12/13 Saleel Kulkarni <[email protected]>

>  I agree with and endorse each of Sushant’s statements.****
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> *Saleel Kulkarni*
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> *From:* सुशान्त देवळेकर(Sushant Devlekar) [mailto:
> [email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 December, 2011 11:29 AM
> *To:* Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia
> *Cc:* Marathi Wikipedia; marathi opensourse; deonagari;
> [email protected]; mumbai list; Abhay Natu; Ajay Garg;
> [email protected]; V Narsikar; [email protected]; PRATIK DIXIT;
> Dr Anand Padhye; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; Sudhnwa Joglekar; Omkar Joshi;
> Mandar Kulkarni; Saleel Kulkarni; Kaustubh Samudra; Mahitgar From Marathi
> Wikipedia; Madhav Shirvalkar; [email protected]; shantanu oak; Subhash
> Pawar; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; Rahuldeshmukh101; [email protected];
> vishvakosh nirmiti mandal Wai; Amit Yadav; [email protected];
> v padhye; [email protected]; "Abhishek Suryawanshi";
> [email protected]; "Nikhil Kadadi"; "Pallavi Kelkar"; "sagar
> markal"; [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fw: [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia****
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> Thanks for this forward.
> In my opinion the transliteration should not be the default input method.
> It should made available as non default.
> 1. Inscript is the standard keyboard layout approved by Govt. of India and
> thus it is our duty to encourage it's use.
> 2. When we make inscript non default, we are encouraging people not tto
> use it.
> 3. If any one does not know or does not want to use Inscript, she can use
> other methods i. e. transliteration etc.
> 4. There is no standard transliteration scheme available. All available
> schemes differ with each other in some points. Thus it is not a wise
> decision to make a non standard method as default. It should be available
> as non default.
>
> Sushant****
>
> 2011/12/13 Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia <[email protected]>****
>
> Dear All ****
>
> From Marathi Language Wikipedia we had requested mediawiki technical team
> to make a phonetic Marathi font  transliteration system default for all
> anonymous users and new editors who have not completed edits upto 500
> edits  just simply because if we study edits of new comers and anonymous
> users it seems that they usualy do not understand how to enable present
> optional transliteration system.****
>
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>
> the Narayam extension as updated for Marathi Language is in beta version
> available for testing at 
> translatewiki.net<http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Portal:Mr>. We have received 
> following reply to our  Our technical request  which is
> submitted at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669 ****
>
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> This is for your information and discussion after the discussion we will
> put the information on Marathi Wikipedia poll page and confirm apropriate
> marathi wikipedia community decesion.****
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>
> Following forwarded reply is self explanatory, We seek openions from all
> of you so this is for your information and discussion .Please keep this
> discussion in english so non marathi development team members can
> understand our discussion.****
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> Regards****
>
> mahitgar****
>
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>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 December 2011 12:35 PM
> *Subject:* [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia
>
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669
>
> --- Comment #2 from Santhosh Thottingal <[email protected]>
> 2011-12-12 07:05:32 UTC ---
> (In reply to comment #0)
> > Dear All ,
> > Thanks for updating Narayam to Marathi Language requirements in recent
> > Hackathon in Mumbai.(You can view the google online presentation at
> > [
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1uWz-tCvrRg5GaPh5lD_0aPy9CnUmRUVaHcs10rUYkYU/edit]
>
> >
> > Now herewith Marathi Language Wikipedia requests to enable Narayam
> extension on
> > Marathi Language Wikipedia with along with following features (Please see
> > Community aproval http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:कौल )
>
> The extension is available at translatewiki.net , and we marked as beta
> till we
> get feedback from the community that it is stable can be enabled in
> mr.wikipedia. So please test and give us confirmation that it works as
> expected.
>
> > 1)Narayam should be default font inputting system  for all unregistered
> users
> > and all users for upto 500 edit
>
> We can make Narayam enabled by default. But the extension does not check
> the
> edits count.
>
> > 2) The requested inputting facility should be applicable on all
> namespaces
> > including  inter active popup windows meant for inserting links and
> references
>
> This should be ok.
>
> > 3)Also applicable  at edit summary,all search windows,all input boxes
> specialy
> > "type=create" group
>
> The extension will be enabled in all editable fields.
>
> > 4)Shall have Marathi inscript keyboard layout option too as per windows
> > non-default  option
>
> Transliteration is the default one.
>
> > 5)Should be applicable to all skins including vector
>
> We don't support all the mediiawiki skins. Extension  supports Vector,
> Monobook, Modern skins.
>
> > 6. Narayam should be default to above said user category to New User
> Creation
> > and User Login
>
> Extension does not distinguish uses based on any category.
>
> > 7.Narayam keyboard structure should be editable to Marathi Wikipedia
> sysops at
> > local level
>
> No, The extension does not provide this feature.
>
> If the community is ok with the extension after verifying it at
> translatewiki.net,  please inform us here. We will enable it in mr wikis
> in the
> next i18n deployment.
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