Hi, As I understand (and tried on translatewiki), Narayanam gives option of both the methods. phonetic is the default.
Let people choose whatever they want. Personally, I believe inscript should be used as default. If we give choices, people will always use the other one. Regards -Sudhanwa On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Shiju Alex <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > > Before making a decision on this, I suggest to conduct a survey among > existing Marathi wikipedians. > > We cannot enforce a typing scheme on newbies when we are not getting > enough contributes to Marathi wikipedia. Even the latest report shows > Marathi wikipedia has just 47 active contributors. If transliteration is > brining in more new users please go for that. If Inscript is brining in > more new users use that. I am not sure how many of the existing users are > using InScript. So make a decision based on the typing habit of existing > users and potential new users. > > The aim should be bringing in more Marathi speakers to marathi wiki. > > > > > 2011/12/13 Saleel Kulkarni <[email protected]> > >> I agree with and endorse each of Sushant’s statements.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *Saleel Kulkarni* >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* सुशान्त देवळेकर(Sushant Devlekar) [mailto: >> [email protected]] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 December, 2011 11:29 AM >> *To:* Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia >> *Cc:* Marathi Wikipedia; marathi opensourse; deonagari; >> [email protected]; mumbai list; Abhay Natu; Ajay >> Garg; [email protected]; V Narsikar; [email protected]; PRATIK >> DIXIT; Dr Anand Padhye; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; Sudhnwa Joglekar; Omkar >> Joshi; Mandar Kulkarni; Saleel Kulkarni; Kaustubh Samudra; Mahitgar From >> Marathi Wikipedia; Madhav Shirvalkar; [email protected]; shantanu oak; >> Subhash Pawar; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; Rahuldeshmukh101; [email protected]; >> vishvakosh nirmiti mandal Wai; Amit Yadav; [email protected]; >> v padhye; [email protected]; "Abhishek Suryawanshi"; >> [email protected]; "Nikhil Kadadi"; "Pallavi Kelkar"; "sagar >> markal"; [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Fw: [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks for this forward. >> In my opinion the transliteration should not be the default input method. >> It should made available as non default. >> 1. Inscript is the standard keyboard layout approved by Govt. of India >> and thus it is our duty to encourage it's use. >> 2. When we make inscript non default, we are encouraging people not tto >> use it. >> 3. If any one does not know or does not want to use Inscript, she can use >> other methods i. e. transliteration etc. >> 4. There is no standard transliteration scheme available. All available >> schemes differ with each other in some points. Thus it is not a wise >> decision to make a non standard method as default. It should be >> available as non default. >> >> Sushant**** >> >> 2011/12/13 Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia <[email protected]>**** >> >> Dear All **** >> >> From Marathi Language Wikipedia we had requested mediawiki technical team >> to make a phonetic Marathi font transliteration system default for all >> anonymous users and new editors who have not completed edits upto 500 >> edits just simply because if we study edits of new comers and anonymous >> users it seems that they usualy do not understand how to enable present >> optional transliteration system.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> the Narayam extension as updated for Marathi Language is in beta version >> available for testing at >> translatewiki.net<http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Portal:Mr>. We have received >> following reply to our Our technical request which is >> submitted at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669 **** >> >> ** ** >> >> This is for your information and discussion after the discussion we will >> put the information on Marathi Wikipedia poll page and confirm apropriate >> marathi wikipedia community decesion.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Following forwarded reply is self explanatory, We seek openions from all >> of you so this is for your information and discussion .Please keep this >> discussion in english so non marathi development team members can >> understand our discussion.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Regards**** >> >> mahitgar**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Monday, 12 December 2011 12:35 PM >> *Subject:* [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia >> >> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669 >> >> --- Comment #2 from Santhosh Thottingal <[email protected]> >> 2011-12-12 07:05:32 UTC --- >> (In reply to comment #0) >> > Dear All , >> > Thanks for updating Narayam to Marathi Language requirements in recent >> > Hackathon in Mumbai.(You can view the google online presentation at >> > [ >> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1uWz-tCvrRg5GaPh5lD_0aPy9CnUmRUVaHcs10rUYkYU/edit] >> >> > >> > Now herewith Marathi Language Wikipedia requests to enable Narayam >> extension on >> > Marathi Language Wikipedia with along with following features (Please >> see >> > Community aproval http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:कौल ) >> >> The extension is available at translatewiki.net , and we marked as beta >> till we >> get feedback from the community that it is stable can be enabled in >> mr.wikipedia. So please test and give us confirmation that it works as >> expected. >> >> > 1)Narayam should be default font inputting system for all unregistered >> users >> > and all users for upto 500 edit >> >> We can make Narayam enabled by default. But the extension does not check >> the >> edits count. >> >> > 2) The requested inputting facility should be applicable on all >> namespaces >> > including inter active popup windows meant for inserting links and >> references >> >> This should be ok. >> >> > 3)Also applicable at edit summary,all search windows,all input boxes >> specialy >> > "type=create" group >> >> The extension will be enabled in all editable fields. >> >> > 4)Shall have Marathi inscript keyboard layout option too as per windows >> > non-default option >> >> Transliteration is the default one. >> >> > 5)Should be applicable to all skins including vector >> >> We don't support all the mediiawiki skins. Extension supports Vector, >> Monobook, Modern skins. >> >> > 6. Narayam should be default to above said user category to New User >> Creation >> > and User Login >> >> Extension does not distinguish uses based on any category. >> >> > 7.Narayam keyboard structure should be editable to Marathi Wikipedia >> sysops at >> > local level >> >> No, The extension does not provide this feature. >> >> If the community is ok with the extension after verifying it at >> translatewiki.net, please inform us here. We will enable it in mr wikis >> in the >> next i18n deployment. >> >> -- >> Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email >> ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- >> You reported the bug.**** >> >> >> >> >> -- >> सुशान्त शं. देवळेकर (www.vechak.org) >> >> आता सांगायला कोणतंही कारण उरलेलं नाही. >> आळस हा कधीच समर्थनीय नसतो. >> मराठी दिसायला आता कशाचीही आडकाठी नाही. ( >> www.yunikodatunmarathi.blogspot.com) >> मराठी लिहायला आपल्या सोयीचे कळपाट वापरता येतात. 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