I think by default tool is OFF. The end user need to select the option according to his/her preference. My suggestion is to continue with that option.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <[email protected]>wrote: > ** > > > Hi, > > As I understand (and tried on translatewiki), Narayanam gives option of > both the methods. phonetic is the default. > > Let people choose whatever they want. Personally, I believe inscript > should be used as default. If we give choices, people will always use the > other one. > > Regards > -Sudhanwa > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Shiju Alex <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Before making a decision on this, I suggest to conduct a survey among >> existing Marathi wikipedians. >> >> We cannot enforce a typing scheme on newbies when we are not getting >> enough contributes to Marathi wikipedia. Even the latest report shows >> Marathi wikipedia has just 47 active contributors. If transliteration is >> brining in more new users please go for that. If Inscript is brining in >> more new users use that. I am not sure how many of the existing users are >> using InScript. So make a decision based on the typing habit of existing >> users and potential new users. >> >> The aim should be bringing in more Marathi speakers to marathi wiki. >> >> >> >> >> 2011/12/13 Saleel Kulkarni <[email protected]> >> >>> I agree with and endorse each of Sushant’s statements.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *Saleel Kulkarni* >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* सुशान्त देवळेकर(Sushant Devlekar) [mailto: >>> [email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 December, 2011 11:29 AM >>> *To:* Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia >>> *Cc:* Marathi Wikipedia; marathi opensourse; deonagari; >>> [email protected]; mumbai list; Abhay Natu; Ajay >>> Garg; [email protected]; V Narsikar; [email protected]; PRATIK >>> DIXIT; Dr Anand Padhye; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>> [email protected]; [email protected]; Sudhnwa Joglekar; Omkar >>> Joshi; Mandar Kulkarni; Saleel Kulkarni; Kaustubh Samudra; Mahitgar From >>> Marathi Wikipedia; Madhav Shirvalkar; [email protected]; shantanu oak; >>> Subhash Pawar; [email protected]; [email protected]; >>> [email protected]; Rahuldeshmukh101; [email protected]; >>> vishvakosh nirmiti mandal Wai; Amit Yadav; [email protected]; >>> v padhye; [email protected]; "Abhishek Suryawanshi"; >>> [email protected]; "Nikhil Kadadi"; "Pallavi Kelkar"; "sagar >>> markal"; [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: Fw: [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Thanks for this forward. >>> In my opinion the transliteration should not be the default input >>> method. It should made available as non default. >>> 1. Inscript is the standard keyboard layout approved by Govt. of India >>> and thus it is our duty to encourage it's use. >>> 2. When we make inscript non default, we are encouraging people not tto >>> use it. >>> 3. If any one does not know or does not want to use Inscript, she can >>> use other methods i. e. transliteration etc. >>> 4. There is no standard transliteration scheme available. All available >>> schemes differ with each other in some points. Thus it is not a wise >>> decision to make a non standard method as default. It should be >>> available as non default. >>> >>> Sushant**** >>> >>> 2011/12/13 Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia <[email protected]>**** >>> >>> Dear All **** >>> >>> From Marathi Language Wikipedia we had requested mediawiki technical >>> team to make a phonetic Marathi font transliteration system default for >>> all anonymous users and new editors who have not completed edits upto 500 >>> edits just simply because if we study edits of new comers and anonymous >>> users it seems that they usualy do not understand how to enable present >>> optional transliteration system.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> the Narayam extension as updated for Marathi Language is in beta version >>> available for testing at >>> translatewiki.net<http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Portal:Mr>. We have >>> received following reply to our Our technical request which is >>> submitted at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669 **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> This is for your information and discussion after the discussion we will >>> put the information on Marathi Wikipedia poll page and confirm apropriate >>> marathi wikipedia community decesion.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Following forwarded reply is self explanatory, We seek openions from all >>> of you so this is for your information and discussion .Please keep this >>> discussion in english so non marathi development team members can >>> understand our discussion.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Regards**** >>> >>> mahitgar**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >>> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Monday, 12 December 2011 12:35 PM >>> *Subject:* [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia >>> >>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669 >>> >>> --- Comment #2 from Santhosh Thottingal <[email protected]> >>> 2011-12-12 07:05:32 UTC --- >>> (In reply to comment #0) >>> > Dear All , >>> > Thanks for updating Narayam to Marathi Language requirements in recent >>> > Hackathon in Mumbai.(You can view the google online presentation at >>> > [ >>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1uWz-tCvrRg5GaPh5lD_0aPy9CnUmRUVaHcs10rUYkYU/edit] >>> >>> > >>> > Now herewith Marathi Language Wikipedia requests to enable Narayam >>> extension on >>> > Marathi Language Wikipedia with along with following features (Please >>> see >>> > Community aproval http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:कौल ) >>> >>> The extension is available at translatewiki.net , and we marked as beta >>> till we >>> get feedback from the community that it is stable can be enabled in >>> mr.wikipedia. So please test and give us confirmation that it works as >>> expected. >>> >>> > 1)Narayam should be default font inputting system for all >>> unregistered users >>> > and all users for upto 500 edit >>> >>> We can make Narayam enabled by default. But the extension does not check >>> the >>> edits count. >>> >>> > 2) The requested inputting facility should be applicable on all >>> namespaces >>> > including inter active popup windows meant for inserting links and >>> references >>> >>> This should be ok. >>> >>> > 3)Also applicable at edit summary,all search windows,all input boxes >>> specialy >>> > "type=create" group >>> >>> The extension will be enabled in all editable fields. >>> >>> > 4)Shall have Marathi inscript keyboard layout option too as per windows >>> > non-default option >>> >>> Transliteration is the default one. >>> >>> > 5)Should be applicable to all skins including vector >>> >>> We don't support all the mediiawiki skins. Extension supports Vector, >>> Monobook, Modern skins. >>> >>> > 6. Narayam should be default to above said user category to New User >>> Creation >>> > and User Login >>> >>> Extension does not distinguish uses based on any category. >>> >>> > 7.Narayam keyboard structure should be editable to Marathi Wikipedia >>> sysops at >>> > local level >>> >>> No, The extension does not provide this feature. >>> >>> If the community is ok with the extension after verifying it at >>> translatewiki.net, please inform us here. We will enable it in mr >>> wikis in the >>> next i18n deployment. >>> >>> -- >>> Configure bugmail: >>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email >>> ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- >>> You reported the bug.**** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> सुशान्त शं. देवळेकर (www.vechak.org) >>> >>> आता सांगायला कोणतंही कारण उरलेलं नाही. >>> आळस हा कधीच समर्थनीय नसतो. >>> मराठी दिसायला आता कशाचीही आडकाठी नाही. 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