Note, in case you didn't see, since this thread was getting extremely
complicated to follow.. I started two threads - one about
"Merging near deployment branch cut time"
and
"Notifying people when integration tests"


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Isarra Yos <zhoris...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/03/14 17:06, Antoine Musso wrote:
>>
>> Le 07/03/2014 16:48, Bartosz Dziewoński a écrit :
>>>
>>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 16:27:53 +0100, Antoine Musso <hashar+...@free.fr>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So a single -1 should prevent a change from being submitted until that
>>>> -1 is lifted by addressing the person concern(s) or correcting him/her
>>>> or whatever.
>>>
>>> Note that such a rule never been followed by anyone, including by
>>> various WMF teams. You can easily find numerous examples, even if these
>>> searches are limited to only changesets where the -1 stuck on the last
>>> patchset.
>>>
>>> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/is:merged+label:Code-Review-1,n,z
>>> (this search seems to hang forever)
>>>
>>> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/is:merged+label:Code-Review-1+project:mediawiki/core,n,z
>>
>> That is like ~10 changes per year on core, which suggest we attempt to
>> get the -1 lifted before merging :-D
>>
>
> We do attempt to get it lifted, but this is not always feasible. Here, as in
> other cases, the issues were discussed and a good faith effort was put in to
> address them (most were indeed resolved), and what more can we really do?
> Even when a minority opinion cannot convince others that something is bad,
> they will not necessarily change their minds and agree that it is good,
> either.
>
> Sometimes it does turn out they are right, but does that mean we should
> automatically stand down whenever a single person disagrees? They should to
> be able to show they are right, and if they cannot, then will the change not
> show it later if it comes to it?
>
> Coming to a standstill over these achieves nothing.
>
> -I
>
>
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