Only thing more dangerous than running a bot on nowiki is running a bot on dewiki. Nope, newer touches dewiki.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 12:49 AM Roul P. <perheli...@gmail.com> wrote: > Interesting, today this was topic in the German main forum: > > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia#Anwendung_von_­_in_Bildunterschriften > > Today there are also more than one user indefinite blocked, which only > removed <nowiki/> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Entgr%C3%A4ten40 > > Am Fr., 5. Okt. 2018 um 00:29 Uhr schrieb John Erling Blad < > jeb...@gmail.com > >: > > > We have the same in Norwegian, but linking on part of a composite is > almost > > always wrong. Either you link on the whole composite or no part of the > > composite. If you link on a part of a composite, then in nearly all > cases I > > have seen the link is placed on the wrong term. > > > > Some examples on what insanity users write > > - [[absorpsjon]]s[[Spektrallinje|linjene]] > > - [[Autentisering]]s[[Protokoll (datamaskiner)|protokollen]] > > - [[Sykepleie|sykehjem]]s[[Hjemmesykepleie|omsorg]] > > > > From an article messed up by VE (yes it does mess up articles sometimes!) > > - ma[[Øssur Havgrímsson|ge]]<nowiki/>e[[Øssur Havgrímsson|evner og]] > > - og[[Øssur Havgrímsson|i]]<nowiki/>t[[Øssur Havgrímsson|det samme]] > > > > I have no clue what the previous means… > > > > Things like the following is quite common > > - [[Alexander Kielland]]<nowiki/>s > > - [[De forente nasjoner|FN]]<nowiki/>s > > > > Usually it comes from user errors while using VE. This kind of errors are > > quite common, and I asked (several years ago) whether it could be fixed > in > > VE, but was told "no". > > > > Anyhow I just started a bot to clean up some of the mess… > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:59 PM Thiemo Kreuz <thiemo.kr...@wikimedia.de> > > wrote: > > > > > Hey! > > > > > > The syntax "[[Schnee]]<nowiki />reichtum" is quite common in the > > > German community. There are not many other ways to achieve the same: > > > <span /> or ­ can be used instead.[1] The later is often the > > > better alternative, but an auto-replacement is not possible. For > > > example, "[[Bund]]<nowiki />estag" must become "[[Bund]]es­tag". > > > > > > Not long ago <b/> was often used. This became a problem with the > > > recent parser updates. All <b/> got replaced with <nowiki />, as far > > > as I'm aware of. > > > > > > > in German, shouldn't they be tweaking the "linktrail" setting on > > dewiki, > > > instead of using `<nowiki/>`? What are cases where they *do* want the > > link > > > to include the entire word? > > > > > > The software feature exists because of English [[word ending]]s. The > > > same exists in German ("viele [[Wiki]]s, viele [[Tisch]]e, viele > > > [[Arbeit]]en"), but is overshadowed by the fact that German is a > > > language with many composites. From my experience, the fact that all > > > linktrails, no matter how long, become part of the link is almost > > > always a problem. It enlarges the click region, which is good, but > > > surprises the reader when he ends at an unexpected article. I guess it > > > would actually be a net-gain when the feature gets turned off or tuned > > > down in German wikis. For example, we could limit the length of the > > > linktrail to 2 characters. > > > > > > Is somebody interested in creating usage statistics for these > > > linktrails in the German Wikipedia main namespace? > > > > > > Best > > > Thiemo > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verlinken#Verlinkung_von_Teilw%C3%B6rtern > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
