I'd agree with you...but, this admin is determined to break everything.

Normally Congress wouldn't get this meddlesome, either, because they don't 
like big changes, but right now, the radicals are driving the agenda, 
because they're in charge...   and using every sledghammer or bribery or 
extortion means they have to get compliance out of the hesitant...   It's 
not politics as usual, in any sense.  Things we used to consider safe 
aren't, and axioms that used to be, are no longer.





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From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:30 AM
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance

> Now, now, now......  You know as well as I that any rule they make and any
> hurdle they put up on the front end, they also make rules and take down
> hurdles on the back end so that things only appear different yet remain 
> the
> same.
>
> The goal of most politicians is to do nothing yet appear to be doing
> everything.  It's all noise and fluff and in the end we'll just be filling
> out a form with a different number yet the information required will be
> identical to the 1099.
>
>
> My wife agrees with me and she is always right.
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of MDK
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:25 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance
>
>
> It's my understanding that for purposes of insurance, the rules that 
> govern
> 1099 work are being changed dramatically.    The "subcontractor" status is
> mostly going to go away.     This will mean that if someone runs his own
> business, but only works for you,  bye bye status... and that includes
> workman's comp, unemployment, withholdings, etc.
>
> Heaven only knows if this is in whatever abomination is finally produced,
> but the intent is definitely to pretty much end this kind of stuff.   One 
> of
>
> the ways that was in one of the bills, was to force all individuals who 
> work
>
> under that status to buy insurance.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:15 PM
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance
>
>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmm......  I feel an increase in the use of the 1099 form would
>> be
>> the easy answer.  I lived as a 1099 for many years.
>>
>> I'm with you on your feelings of "get all the way in or get all the way
>> out".  I'd prefer they get all the way in and just do it because,
>> honestly,
>> it will happen in the end anyhow.  Why put it off and cause more
>> suffering?
>> I know, politics doesn't belong here usually and I won't be hit like that
>> but it is an issue for some of us.  (And as far as I'm concerned they can
>> give gays marriage also and just get it the heck out of the way finally,
>> sheeesh!  Why should I be the only one to suffer through marriage???)
>>
>> But the reality is that many companies are going to go to making who they
>> can a 1099 contractor and that's going to open up another can of left in
>> the
>> sun worms.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] health insurance
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets
>> passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are
>> estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for
>> us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically
>> this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least
>> for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit
>> and offer less benefits for everyone in the company.
>>
>> Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't
>> belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding
>> it), or leave it alone.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>>
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